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13 Aug 2007, 10:33 pm
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13 Aug 2007, 10:36 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Only a fool takes everyone at their word.
unless you base a religion off of it..........
Who's word am I taking without personally testing it for myself? I've personally tested and proven all of the parts of the Bible I believe. I have very high demands for what I accept.
without going into what i think about the contents of the bible specifically... to say the least... it's a watered-down bastardization of anything god might have said
you take it at great face value that it is the word of god
Nope. I went to seminary, and studied where all the various texts came from. My best friend, who has a doctorate from Trinity, has taught me much more about the origins of the Bible than I learned in school, and he's available every time I have a question. Think about it: If God were real, He'd make sure His Scriptures survived.
how perfectly logical... i have seen the light
13 Aug 2007, 10:37 pm
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13 Aug 2007, 10:41 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
i am not trying to speak for all people... and i think that bi people are prolly more flexible generally than straight or gay
Sometimes I wonder if the only
way to explain what I am is as bi.
But, I really don't think so. There is
NO attraction there.
But, I can get attracted to stuff that ain't
human. Now, I don't know what that's
about.
I guess I'm just crazy.
No, I'm exactly the same way. You're describing what I've been talking about -- the ability to focus one's attraction on what one wishes. That's the salient point in this discussion.
so i just said what cal said is like how i am....
but there is a diff in what you're claiming... and what he's saying there is no real attraction so he wouldnt really descirbe it as bi
you're claiming to experience the attraction and be able to manipulate it
What do you/he mean by "real attraction"? You'll need to define that exactly.
I can be just as attracted to a man as I normally am to a woman. I can appreciate big muscles, smooth pecs, and a nice shaft, and this appreciation "does something for me" when I focus on it.
you dont have to focus for real attraction.... ffs
and it's not EVER forced
13 Aug 2007, 10:52 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
i am not trying to speak for all people... and i think that bi people are prolly more flexible generally than straight or gay
Sometimes I wonder if the only
way to explain what I am is as bi.
But, I really don't think so. There is
NO attraction there.
But, I can get attracted to stuff that ain't
human. Now, I don't know what that's
about.
I guess I'm just crazy.
No, I'm exactly the same way. You're describing what I've been talking about -- the ability to focus one's attraction on what one wishes. That's the salient point in this discussion.
so i just said what cal said is like how i am....
but there is a diff in what you're claiming... and what he's saying there is no real attraction so he wouldnt really descirbe it as bi
you're claiming to experience the attraction and be able to manipulate it
What do you/he mean by "real attraction"? You'll need to define that exactly.
I can be just as attracted to a man as I normally am to a woman. I can appreciate big muscles, smooth pecs, and a nice shaft, and this appreciation "does something for me" when I focus on it.
I can appreciate big muscles, body and face, that as well, I think Bakula is good looking
But I am not attracted to him.
Sexual orientation is not something you can manipulate as you claim to be, it is based on things that you can't manage to control if you are either straight or gay and not bisexual.
Now you could play games with other men perhaps, I don't know exactly what you did, but let me ask you a question, Have you ever been in love with a man before, or had a crush on a man before?
The women you dated, and the last woman in your life especially, I am sure you felt a deep love and emotional connection with her, something very special, enchanting and magical being with her, right? Have you ever felt that way about a man? Because that is part of the sexual orientation you know, to same feelings a regular straight guy has to his girlfriend or wife, it works the same way with them.
You can't really claim you became Gay if you didn't actually have any emotional attachment to that person.
In order to became Gay you have to stop being attracted to women, otherwise, that would make you Bisexual.
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13 Aug 2007, 10:53 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
i am not trying to speak for all people... and i think that bi people are prolly more flexible generally than straight or gay
Sometimes I wonder if the only
way to explain what I am is as bi.
But, I really don't think so. There is
NO attraction there.
But, I can get attracted to stuff that ain't
human. Now, I don't know what that's
about.
I guess I'm just crazy.
No, I'm exactly the same way. You're describing what I've been talking about -- the ability to focus one's attraction on what one wishes. That's the salient point in this discussion.
so i just said what cal said is like how i am....
but there is a diff in what you're claiming... and what he's saying there is no real attraction so he wouldnt really descirbe it as bi
you're claiming to experience the attraction and be able to manipulate it
What do you/he mean by "real attraction"? You'll need to define that exactly.
I can be just as attracted to a man as I normally am to a woman. I can appreciate big muscles, smooth pecs, and a nice shaft, and this appreciation "does something for me" when I focus on it.
you dont have to focus for real attraction.... ffs
and it's not EVER forced
Sometimes the focus is less necessary than other times. Sometimes I have to turn it on, and other times I find it's already on, and I have to shut it off. It's very plastic -- that's why there's so much variance. It's a live, dynamic thing, just as most things about living creatures.
13 Aug 2007, 10:56 pm
Sedaka wrote:
you dont have to focus for real attraction.... ffs
and it's not EVER forced
and it's not EVER forced
Stop being so narrow minded. You have to label, stereotype, and pigeon-hole everyone into specific classes, don't you?
13 Aug 2007, 11:00 pm
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13 Aug 2007, 11:01 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
i am not trying to speak for all people... and i think that bi people are prolly more flexible generally than straight or gay
Sometimes I wonder if the only
way to explain what I am is as bi.
But, I really don't think so. There is
NO attraction there.
But, I can get attracted to stuff that ain't
human. Now, I don't know what that's
about.
I guess I'm just crazy.
No, I'm exactly the same way. You're describing what I've been talking about -- the ability to focus one's attraction on what one wishes. That's the salient point in this discussion.
so i just said what cal said is like how i am....
but there is a diff in what you're claiming... and what he's saying there is no real attraction so he wouldnt really descirbe it as bi
you're claiming to experience the attraction and be able to manipulate it
What do you/he mean by "real attraction"? You'll need to define that exactly.
I can be just as attracted to a man as I normally am to a woman. I can appreciate big muscles, smooth pecs, and a nice shaft, and this appreciation "does something for me" when I focus on it.
you dont have to focus for real attraction.... ffs
and it's not EVER forced
Sometimes the focus is less necessary than other times. Sometimes I have to turn it on, and other times I find it's already on, and I have to shut it off. It's very plastic -- that's why there's so much variance. It's a live, dynamic thing, just as most things about living creatures.
maybe for truly bi people and poseurs like you... but also claiming asexuality?
and you havent ever f****d a man or had them do anything to you... so you cant really say....
and if this is truly such for everyone... that makes me think that maybe God is bi... since we're made in his image yadda yadda yadda
which brings us back to why is homosexuality so wrong then?
lol
Sedaka
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13 Aug 2007, 11:05 pm
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
you dont have to focus for real attraction.... ffs
and it's not EVER forced
and it's not EVER forced
Stop being so narrow minded. You have to label, stereotype, and pigeon-hole everyone into specific classes, don't you?
no im just telling you how real attraction works... there is a homeostasis point... and it's either set to both sexes, one or the other or none... maybe you can adjust the knob (ha ha) but there is still that room temp setting... which for you is straight (obviously from your postings)
you never answered... what's your profession?
13 Aug 2007, 11:18 pm
Sedaka wrote:
maybe for truly bi people and poseurs like you... but also claiming asexuality?
and you havent ever f**** a man or had them do anything to you... so you cant really say.... Now who's switching definitions? Sopho hasn't had sex with either a man or a woman, yet you full accept her as gay, so what's this "you can't really say until you do it" nonsense?
13 Aug 2007, 11:23 pm
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
you dont have to focus for real attraction.... ffs
and it's not EVER forced
and it's not EVER forced
Stop being so narrow minded. You have to label, stereotype, and pigeon-hole everyone into specific classes, don't you?
no im just telling you how real attraction works... there is a homeostasis point... and it's either set to both sexes, one or the other or none... maybe you can adjust the knob (ha ha) but there is still that room temp setting... which for you is straight (obviously from your postings)
You're shifting the lines of definitions all over the place, which is fine if you believe many of these terms are plastic, as I do, but you don't believe that.
Sedaka wrote:
you never answered... what's your profession?
Gigolo. WTF? When did you even ask me my profession?
14 Aug 2007, 2:38 am
14 Aug 2007, 7:54 am
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
calandale wrote:
Sedaka wrote:
i am not trying to speak for all people... and i think that bi people are prolly more flexible generally than straight or gay
Sometimes I wonder if the only
way to explain what I am is as bi.
But, I really don't think so. There is
NO attraction there.
But, I can get attracted to stuff that ain't
human. Now, I don't know what that's
about.
I guess I'm just crazy.
No, I'm exactly the same way. You're describing what I've been talking about -- the ability to focus one's attraction on what one wishes. That's the salient point in this discussion.
so i just said what cal said is like how i am....
but there is a diff in what you're claiming... and what he's saying there is no real attraction so he wouldnt really descirbe it as bi
you're claiming to experience the attraction and be able to manipulate it
What do you/he mean by "real attraction"? You'll need to define that exactly.
I can be just as attracted to a man as I normally am to a woman. I can appreciate big muscles, smooth pecs, and a nice shaft, and this appreciation "does something for me" when I focus on it.
you dont have to focus for real attraction.... ffs
and it's not EVER forced
Exactly. Even when I consciously tried to be attracted to men, I was still attracted to women all along. I couldn't change that.
14 Aug 2007, 7:57 am
14 Aug 2007, 8:01 am
Ragtime wrote:
Sopho wrote:
I still don't get why 'he' is written with a capital H when referring to this god thing. Since when did pronouns begin with capitals?
Ah, now you're getting to the deep and profound matters of existence.
I do notice, though, that you can't seem to stand referring to God as even "he", let alone "He". Do you hate men or something?
Back to this again?
I could call it 'he' if I wanted to, but I don't even believe it exists.
Do you hate women?
You were the one who admitted being angry at 'womankind' at one point in your life. However pissed off I was at one man, I wouldn't ever hate every man in the world for it. I've given you no evidence to suggest I hate men. I get on with them as friends. Whereas you've actually admitted to being pissed off at ALL women. So if anyone hates half the population, it's you.
