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16 Aug 2007, 11:41 am

Say life is a VCR, then the VCR manual would be the bible. That simple.

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16 Aug 2007, 11:42 am

Sopho wrote:

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No, religion, as Dylan Moran said in his stand-up comedy show Monster, that religion is basically taking imaginary friends to the next level.

That well sounds like an attempted definition by someone who can't determine something, shrugs, and gives his best guess. If you think "imaginary" = "invisible", then ya, the definition works.

Imaginary = all in your head mate.

Then, Moran's definition can't work for the real God.

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16 Aug 2007, 11:44 am

EatingPoetry wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Quatermass wrote:

No, religion, as Dylan Moran said in his stand-up comedy show Monster, that religion is basically taking imaginary friends to the next level.

That well sounds like an attempted definition by someone who can't determine something, shrugs, and gives his best guess. If you think "imaginary" = "invisible", then ya, the definition works.

It was comedy!

Indeed.

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16 Aug 2007, 11:46 am

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How do you explain the historical figure of Jesus?

The existence of an historical figure does not make it any more likely that a god exists.

If the historical figure claimed to be god, and backed up his claim with evidence, and that evidence seems to be sound, then it does.

But that's just it - WHERE is the evidence that he was a god?

The historical records of his claimed "miracles", the credibility of his teachings, his charisma, his great goodwill, and his masses of followers.

the remains of his penis have also been found recently, i read an article about it on the intraweb.

Well, then it simply must be true!

I could sy exactly the same to you with your Bible quotes.

You're comparing the Bible to intraweb?

Your comment does not contain enough thought to deserve a response.

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16 Aug 2007, 11:48 am

Sopho wrote:

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The historical records of his claimed "miracles", the credibility of his teachings, his charisma, his great goodwill, and his masses of followers.

The rest of your evidence any decent human could pull off. It suggests nothing.

Well, let's be honest here -- not "any decent human" could teaching astonishingly, so that five thousand men and their families all skipped lunch and followed him into the wilderness just to keep hearing him talk. I mean, let's be clear with our points: that narrows it down significantly from "any decent human".

I could.

Just because you can't, doesn't mean no one else can.

The fact (of course) is that few people are that charismatic.

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16 Aug 2007, 11:49 am

Ragtime wrote:

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

EatingPoetry wrote:

Anubis wrote:

The historical records of his claimed "miracles", the credibility of his teachings, his charisma, his great goodwill, and his masses of followers.

The rest of your evidence any decent human could pull off. It suggests nothing.

I could.

Just because you can't, doesn't mean no one else can.

The fact (of course) is that few people are that charismatic.

I guess Hitler was the son of god after all then. We're all f*cked.

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16 Aug 2007, 11:51 am

Ragtime wrote:

You're comparing the Bible to intraweb?

Your comment does not contain enough thought to deserve a response.

LOL But your Bible is full of s**t. I could find more decent stuff on the internet.

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16 Aug 2007, 11:52 am

The bible has a lot of wisdom in it, you know moral codes etc.

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16 Aug 2007, 11:54 am

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Jesus was just a symbol and the bible is just a guideline for life. It's not real.

I guess we'll just take your word for it.

The pages are real... that's about it.
It's up to you to make it real by living it, but things get taken too far (the gay marriage debate and religious people holding up signs that say GOD HATES FAGS).

Philosophers have been arguing over the existence of God for 2000 years and no argument has been valid enough. Arguing inevitably leads to some kind of contradiction in the systems logic system; always.

Okay, Christianity is not about heterosexuality. It's just not. That's a side issue. Christianity is about believing that Jesus is God's Son. If you look at the fire-from-Heaven judgment and total destruction of the ancient city of Sodom, you'll understand that it irks God when men stick their penises inside other men. It also annoys God when men cheat on their spouses, or have sex with people they're not married to. So, Christianity is about ALL OF US -- gay and straight, male and female, Jew and Gentile -- submitting what we'd naturally do to the will of God. If you think that's unfair, go to Him about it.

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16 Aug 2007, 11:58 am

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If you think that's unfair, go to Him about it.

Where can I find him... uh.. wait... He doesn't exist. :lol:

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16 Aug 2007, 11:59 am

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

Sopho wrote:

Ragtime wrote:

EatingPoetry wrote:

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The historical records of his claimed "miracles", the credibility of his teachings, his charisma, his great goodwill, and his masses of followers.

The rest of your evidence any decent human could pull off. It suggests nothing.

I could.

Just because you can't, doesn't mean no one else can.

The fact (of course) is that few people are that charismatic.

I guess Hitler was the son of god after all then. We're all f*cked.

(I kind of wish you really were as stupid as you act.) If you think Hitler had charisma, wait until the Antichrist's speech cause the whole WORLD to bow to him. (Maybe if Hitler had just had an internet connection... World domination has gotten much easier with modern technology.)

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16 Aug 2007, 11:59 am

Sopho wrote:

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If you think that's unfair, go to Him about it.

Where can I find him... uh.. wait... He doesn't exist. :lol:

Ragtime can show you the way...

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16 Aug 2007, 12:00 pm

Sopho wrote:

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If you think that's unfair, go to Him about it.

Where can I find him... uh.. wait... He doesn't exist. :lol:

So, if you find yourself spinning on Satan's prick one day, you won't blame me, right?

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16 Aug 2007, 12:08 pm

Hitler was a very evil man, but did not fit the description of the biblical antichrist. He killed himself, and had psychotic delusions of Aryan superiority. You could call him a political demon, sure. But he only won over the German/Austrian people.

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16 Aug 2007, 12:11 pm

Aradford wrote:

Jesus isn't real... It's a fictional story.

Must be nice to simply turn a blind eye to recorded history. That Jesus existed is historical fact.

Sopho wrote:

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Sopho wrote:

Anubis wrote:

How do you explain the historical figure of Jesus?

The existence of an historical figure does not make it any more likely that a god exists.

If the historical figure claimed to be god, and backed up his claim with evidence, and that evidence seems to be sound, then it does.

But that's just it - WHERE is the evidence that he was a god?

Well, claiming you're going to raise yourself from the dead... and then actually doing it... is fairly convincing evidence.

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16 Aug 2007, 12:12 pm

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Well, claiming you're going to raise yourself from the dead... and then actually doing it... is fairly convincing evidence.

Wow, so we have actual scientific proof that he did this? ZOMG I must have missed this on the news!!1!1

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