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20 Mar 2023, 1:19 am
Dengashinobi wrote:
Listen everyone, first of all my atempt here is not to proove that Trump is innocent. I never was a Trump supporter and I believe he damaged the conservative cause more than anything else. What I want to stress here is that you (Trump hater liberals) are one sided when it comes to the issue we are discussing. Your sole argument so far is trust the authorities because they know better than us. I trust nobody, especially those in power. Trump may be an as*hole but he is also somebody that comes from outside of politics. He is not shielded by the inner workings of those who run the system, career politicians like Hillary and Joe Biden. They owe favors to each other and they protect each other, and in the mean time they engage in corruption. But you are defending Biden for what? All I hope is that at least if they come with penalties for Trump, this is going to kickstart a trend for other politicians too. But don't be dishonest and aim for Trump only. This is what I have to say on the topic.
Aren't the DOJ and Courts supposed to be impartial and apolitical? What makes you think hillary or joe are running them?
trump is an as*hole, yes. Just because he isn't a career politician doesn't mean he isn't a corrupt pos, though - in fact; he is a corrupt pos!
trump went on a bigger crime spree than all other past American politicians combined. He deserves more punishment than he'll ever get.
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20 Mar 2023, 12:05 pm
Dengashinobi wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
Listen everyone, first of all my atempt here is not to proove that Trump is innocent. I never was a Trump supporter and I believe he damaged the conservative cause more than anything else. What I want to stress here is that you (Trump hater liberals) are one sided when it comes to the issue we are discussing. Your sole argument so far is trust the authorities because they know better than us. I trust nobody, especially those in power. Trump may be an as*hole but he is also somebody that comes from outside of politics. He is not shielded by the inner workings of those who run the system, career politicians like Hillary and Joe Biden. They owe favors to each other and they protect each other, and in the mean time they engage in corruption. But you are defending Biden for what? All I hope is that at least if they come with penalties for Trump, this is going to kickstart a trend for other politicians too. But don't be dishonest and aim for Trump only. This is what I have to say on the topic.
Aren't the DOJ and Courts supposed to be impartial and apolitical? What makes you think hillary or joe are running them?
trump is an as*hole, yes. Just because he isn't a career politician doesn't mean he isn't a corrupt pos, though - in fact; he is a corrupt pos!
trump went on a bigger crime spree than all other past American politicians combined. He deserves more punishment than he'll ever get.
Hillary and Biden are the rich that you hate, but for some reason you are defending them. Is it because they are on your side of politics and they tell you what you want to hear? You talk about the courts as if they are not run by humans but from some angelic beings incapable of corruption. The very notion of corruption implies government and state agencies. Yes the U.S. seem to have some of the least corrupt courts in the world but that doesn't mean they are perfect. Washington is the corruption capital of the world for that matter.
Umm, I didn't write anything in defence of hillary or biden in my post. But, would I choose either or both of them over the orange guy? Yes. They're at least of reasonably sound mind vs. trump clearly being a delusional narcissist that only cares about himself while doing insanely destructive things daily just to punish his perceived enemies, whether immigrants/other races, people of other religions, poor people etc. The man was, and is, just awful to so many people that he's literally indefensible unless you're a member of his maga cult.
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21 Mar 2023, 1:38 pm
Mikah wrote:
Honey69 wrote:
And turn Europe over to Russia?
If the Ukrainian invasion has proved anything, it is that Russia cannot hold Europe in that fashion. They can turn Ukraine upside-down but that is about the limit of their abilities. As for the USA, it is going to lose its hold over Eurasia sooner or later as it wanes and if they could have let it go without fomenting war in Ukraine or bifurcating the global economy in an attempt to sanction Russia or blowing up gas pipelines that Europeans require to stay warm or destroying up the global financial system through financial malfeasance that would have been great. I am eager to see what the US has in store for us next in their attempt to "save us".
Are you pretending that the entire existence of the US and it's place in the world isn't due to the greed of the British Monarchy?
Easy to point fingers at everyone else except who's fault it is when it's Your country that created this monster.
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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.21 Mar 2023, 1:46 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
Mikah wrote:
Honey69 wrote:
And turn Europe over to Russia?
If the Ukrainian invasion has proved anything, it is that Russia cannot hold Europe in that fashion. They can turn Ukraine upside-down but that is about the limit of their abilities. As for the USA, it is going to lose its hold over Eurasia sooner or later as it wanes and if they could have let it go without fomenting war in Ukraine or bifurcating the global economy in an attempt to sanction Russia or blowing up gas pipelines that Europeans require to stay warm or destroying up the global financial system through financial malfeasance that would have been great. I am eager to see what the US has in store for us next in their attempt to "save us".
Are you pretending that the entire existence of the US and it's place in the world isn't due to the greed of the British Monarchy?
Easy to point fingers at everyone else except who's fault it is when it's Your country that created this monster.An amusing argument. Perhaps I could deflect blame and point the finger at the Normans in the same way?
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21 Mar 2023, 2:01 pm
Mikah wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Mikah wrote:
Honey69 wrote:
And turn Europe over to Russia?
If the Ukrainian invasion has proved anything, it is that Russia cannot hold Europe in that fashion. They can turn Ukraine upside-down but that is about the limit of their abilities. As for the USA, it is going to lose its hold over Eurasia sooner or later as it wanes and if they could have let it go without fomenting war in Ukraine or bifurcating the global economy in an attempt to sanction Russia or blowing up gas pipelines that Europeans require to stay warm or destroying up the global financial system through financial malfeasance that would have been great. I am eager to see what the US has in store for us next in their attempt to "save us".
Are you pretending that the entire existence of the US and it's place in the world isn't due to the greed of the British Monarchy?
Easy to point fingers at everyone else except who's fault it is when it's Your country that created this monster.
Perhaps. I have no idea because I have no idea who/what/when they were nor how they created the British royal family -> but if it's their fault it's their fault.
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21 Mar 2023, 2:05 pm
goldfish21 wrote:
Perhaps. I have no idea because I have no idea who/what/when they were nor how they created the British royal family -> but if it's their fault it's their fault.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Hanover
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