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Which one are you ?
skeptic 49%  49%  [ 47 ]
believer 27%  27%  [ 26 ]
ambivalent feline 13%  13%  [ 12 ]
visiting poltergeist 11%  11%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 95

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31 May 2013, 8:41 am

If all of a sudden our not so evolved being found out there was definitely an afterlife, then how many of us would take the easy way out.

We would have to be ignorant to say at this point in time we know everything, we can’t even understand the workings of our own mind yet.

500 years ago people believed thoughts came from the heart and not the brain, the same people would have roasted you on a stake over the weekend just for saying the world was round.

My mind goes from mild autism to severe autism depending on what stress I’m enduring, it literally slows down so I lose my ability to express myself, I can’t move or talk.

Sometimes this provokes an out of body experience. When this happens I’m conscious of been in two places at the same time.

My body can’t move, I can still think from my body and I’m aware of my surroundings. Meanwhile, my spirit can move and also has an awareness of its surroundings.

This has been happening throughout my life for more than forty years, of course the experts don’t know what’s happening.

I don’t believe in any religion, and scientist don't understand how the mind works, they can't even work out what causes autism.

Is there life after death?

It’s going to take a bit more evolving of the mind before we can work this question out..



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31 May 2013, 12:19 pm

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Do all of you lack the ability to believe what is beyond reality?

Not at all; but while I am a big fan of science-fiction, I have no cause to believe that any higher intelligence than Homo Sapiens has ever visited Earth. By the same token, I have no cause to believe in supernatural realms or beings.

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You can't prove it wrong, even if you can't prove it.

^Ye Olde Argument from Ignorance. It's a fallacy to believe that a claim is valid just because it has not been proven otherwise.

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... why are you not bashing on satanism all the time like Christianity, the two both believe in the same things, yet one serves evil and the other God. If you are going to critique us, critique us both by all means.

I agree, but only because all religions are bogus.

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Atheism is the state of disbelief...

Wrong. Atheism is the belief that there are no gods to believe in.

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... the fact atheist can't ignore us or stop talking about ghosts or arguing about God when they say they don't believe is odd in the least descriptive way. Why are atheists even bothering to answer if they don't believe?

Because to remain silent while nutters blather on about their religious and superstitious beliefs is to render silent approval of those same baseless beliefs.

If you truly want to silence your critics, then you must first be silent yourself.



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31 May 2013, 12:44 pm

Fnord wrote:

appletheclown wrote:
Atheism is the state of disbelief...

Wrong. Atheism is the belief that there are no gods to believe in.

appletheclown wrote:
... the fact atheist can't ignore us or stop talking about ghosts or arguing about God when they say they don't believe is odd in the least descriptive way. Why are atheists even bothering to answer if they don't believe?

Because to remain silent while nutters blather on about their religious and superstitious beliefs is to render silent approval of those same baseless beliefs.

If you truly want to silence your critics, then you must first be silent yourself.


More of those "critics" should consider taking up agnosticism. It's sort of a "non-know it all" version of atheism in my opinion.



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31 May 2013, 1:12 pm

Venger wrote:
Fnord wrote:

appletheclown wrote:
Atheism is the state of disbelief...

Wrong. Atheism is the belief that there are no gods to believe in.

appletheclown wrote:
... the fact atheist can't ignore us or stop talking about ghosts or arguing about God when they say they don't believe is odd in the least descriptive way. Why are atheists even bothering to answer if they don't believe?

Because to remain silent while nutters blather on about their religious and superstitious beliefs is to render silent approval of those same baseless beliefs.

If you truly want to silence your critics, then you must first be silent yourself.


More of those "critics" should consider taking up agnosticism. It's sort of a "non-know it all" version of atheism in my opinion.


Most atheists I know are also agnostics. Very few atheists claim to be absolutely certain there are no gods.



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31 May 2013, 2:09 pm

Okay ... I should have said, "Hard-core atheism is the belief that there are no gods to believe in."

Everything else is agnosticism ... unless you happen to actually be a god ... in which case, you're a hard-core believer ...

... unless you are a god of doubt ... in which case, all bets are off.



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31 May 2013, 2:14 pm

Maybe there's a Seal God. Just picture a Seal wearing a white robe with sandals. :P



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31 May 2013, 2:16 pm

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Maybe there's a Seal God. Just picture a Seal wearing a white robe with sandals. :P

Would a follower of the "Seal God" wear a little club on a chain around his or her neck?



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31 May 2013, 2:19 pm

No that sounds like the opposite of a Seal.



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31 May 2013, 5:15 pm

Fnord wrote:
Venger wrote:
Maybe there's a Seal God. Just picture a Seal wearing a white robe with sandals. :P

Would a follower of the "Seal God" wear a little club on a chain around his or her neck?


No, just a medallion around their neck, embossed with the "Seal of Approval" :lol:


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31 May 2013, 6:06 pm

kabouter wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Venger wrote:
Maybe there's a Seal God. Just picture a Seal wearing a white robe with sandals.
Would a follower of the "Seal God" wear a little club on a chain around his or her neck?
No, just a medallion around their neck, embossed with the "Seal of Approval"

:wall: ... danged kid beat me to it ...



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31 May 2013, 6:59 pm

snapcap wrote:
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I think it's more beneficial to believe we carry on in some form than to think it all just ends.



Why believe in false things?

Dead is dead.

ruveyn


How is it false? I thought you reject the question as nonsense? Dead is just what we call it because we don't know if we know better.


I sit corrected. Belief in things for which there is not a bit of evidence is nonsense.

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31 May 2013, 7:16 pm

What I wanna know is, Ia there life after birth?



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31 May 2013, 10:50 pm

Yes there is, we are not are not smart enough or ready yet to accept it.



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02 Jun 2013, 10:42 am

Rudywalsh wrote:
Yes there is...

Evidence, please?



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02 Jun 2013, 10:57 am

Rudywalsh wrote:
Yes there is, we are not are not smart enough or ready yet to accept it.


You say? Where is irrefutable empirical evidence of survival after death. And by death I mean rotted out corpses.

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02 Jun 2013, 11:16 am

It appears that the consciousness is being generated by the brain. Which means that when the brain breaks down, the consciousness cease to exist.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBHR727yRGU[/youtube]
But one can say that one sort of lives on in this world after death, simply because we affect the world around us. Which means that a part of me will through people that reads this, and that a part of Albert Einstein lives on in me because i know the ecuation E=mc^2, and so on...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9hbD6U9fXw[/youtube]
But when it comes to the question if the conciousness keep on existing after the body dies, it does actually exist a way to find it out: Wait and see.
If you don't have patience to wait, then commit suicide.


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