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it's all screwed up in washington... and to think i'm gonna be moving to washington, well, at least not to DC.

99.99999999999999999999999999999999-to-infinity% of politicians are complete idiots. and that's because the majority of PEOPLE are idiots who keep electing these idiots. it's all so frustrating.

hey, I've been saying it since Dubya got into office. At least 50% of all Americans are dumber than my shoelaces.... Apart from in florida, there it's around 20%, but that includes the people who organise the voting

sad but true...

naa, Im sure its more like 50% of politicians are morons, 25% are lazy and 20% are simply ignored and lonely. The other 5%? We call them the cabinet, and put them there as the ones to be shot in the revolution

You should try some of us Bush supporters. You think 50% of Americans are dumber than your shoelaces....

I really don't know what to say. Lenin called people like you 'useful idiots' because you would serve their agenda and end up hurting yourself by signing your rights and property away to those in power... Enjoy your socialism, enjoy your lack of guaranteed rights as you are governed by common law, and enjoy not being safe in your own country. There are good reasons why the Americans rebelled against your dictatorship and why you never overthrew it completely to empower yourselves. Your government was born in weakness, and ours in strength. We have a much better hand to play.

Take your insults else where or expect them back.

'Scuse me... We aren't the ones signing away our rights. You're saying all this while Bush is busy stripping you of yours? Have you bothered to read anything about the Patriot Act? In fact, have you bothered doing any research on anything Bush has done? Or are you another one of his blind followers?

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You know i was wondering what the differences between our governments and their history were. Thanks for clearing that up Darth Vader.

What i wonder though is how someone who clearly is'nt exceptionally bright or eloquent is elected as head of the current most powerful country in the world. Whether you are a democrat or not i think it is obvious that clinton runs rings round bush when it comes to brainpower.

Don't take your "I Hate Bush' too seriously. Human nature being what it is sooner or later you're bound to hate someone else just as passionately and have 'good reasons' to do so.



Katze

You know what the sad fact is about the above quote? The sad fact is that you think you're so different or immune to propaganda, Indoctrination, Schooling and Peer pressure when in fact your're as deeply entrenched in it as the rest of us.... I doubt that you have any original thought yourself. If you can develop an argument based on your own insights then bring it on....


Katze

Meaow. That was catty. Im beginning to think you are that cat out of alice in wonderland. whooooooo arreeeeeeee yooooooouuuuuuu!

'Twasn't me, t'was my Cat. She spends her days sitting in trees and whenever someone walks by she asks awkward questions and then slowly d-i-s-i-n-t-e-g-r-a-t-e-s until only her teeth are left(long ancestry of Cheshires). Freaks people out no end. Now the she's got her own logon Id to the Net she's getting out of control but what can I do.....


good to see you!


Katze

The american revolution almost never got off the ground, there was a great deal of support in the colonies for the british monarchy circa mid 18th century.



Socialism has always arisen when the rich and poweful get to big for their own good. In that sense, socialism always forms in strength, the strength of people rising up to overthrow their oppresors. Communist ideas originated during the darkest days of the 1840's when famine was running through out europe and people were dying left and right from exposure and starvation, and no one who could do anything about it gave a crap.

The big misconception conservatives have, and have done a good job pushing is that socialist forms of governement are inheritly evil and oppresive. That's purely false and designed to incite fear amongst people. So called "communist" countries are nothing more than totalitarian or authoritarian countries. It's been the implementation of socialism where things have always gone wrong.

heh,

immune from propaganda? oh dear

socialism corrupts those with power. The Brits had a government that evolved from a monarchy (read:dictatorship) and slowly gave measures of representative democracy. There is no constitution which politicians are bound to enforce. The people of Britain are ruled by committee, because unlike America, power does not devolve from a superior being (the creator), but rather is directly in the hands of the ruling elite. This is the strength I speak of. We have rights that cannot be taken away by any man or by any government. Any movement to the contrary will be met with force and is legally sanctioned by the declaration of the independence and the constitution. You have no such powers - legal or physical. You are at the mercy of those with guns. We are not, we rule ourselves and assure our own safety as any man should. Or can you not trust yourselves with your own safety? Maybe you should similarly not trust your citizens with the right to vote. Maybe criminals should rule you, since they are the only ones with power? Fools.

The free market systems assure that those who rise through the ranks do so based on merit and not patronage. Unfortunately, even in the United States we have our own brand of socialism growing in the wild. Where one does not enter a university on the basis of their intelligence but rather on their skin color (as is the case in my University of California - sure the populace banned affirmative action, but the politicians, bureaucrats, and judiciary decided the people know nothing and their will is not to be respected. They have affirmative action under a new name here and where ever else it is legally challenged.) A society which damns it most brilliant and capable members has long committed itself to suicide.

You speak of the Patriot act as if it is somehow bad! It gives the government powers that may blow your mind (apparently!). Like being able to see what books foreign nationals check out of libraries (which has NEVER been used!). It also knocked down the 'wall of separation' which forbade intelligence branches of the government from communicating with the enforcement side. Lawyers used to decide the security of the American citizenry - no longer. Had this wall not existed, then the 9/11 attacks would have been averted due to "Able Dangers" (a military intelligence unit which was spying for terror cells (illegally I might add)) attempt to pick up and deport Muhammad Atta and three of his friends. Which at the very least would mean less pilots to fly the planes and the loss of the terror cell's leader. Britain just now is pushing through (or perhaps already has) laws that are many fold greater in intrusion and violating your 'rights' (remember: you have none. You have whatever privileges they vote for you. Your common law changes with the winds of politics. Our rights are cemented in stone.. but unfortunately the judiciary has turned to activism and has forsaken its original role as defender of the Constitution as prescribed in Madison vs Marbury. It today is the amender of the constitution, an attempt to steal the role of the legislative branch) I despise those who undermine my rights such as these activists. But those in the Executive who keep me ALIVE (the first right prescribed in the Declaration of Independence - "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness") are doing their jobs well!

You do not understand the role or scope of government. I have studied political philosophy, structure, and history for most of my life. You direct your hate more readily at the leader of the free world than those who deserve it and then bask in his apparent 'stupidity' while he defends against the hordes who attempt to destroy every liberal tradition of the West. You have my contempt.

3/10 Can do Better.

Clinton did all his thinking from his other head.