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06 Dec 2007, 1:49 am

Yeah, the Tao made me see things a whole lot differently and now i am pretty much accustomed to looking through a perspective that suits me. I wish i knew more about eastern philosophy in general. It seems so esoteric to nature.



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06 Dec 2007, 1:22 pm

A main essential thing--and I still need to explore how this relates to Asperger's and Autism--is that mind/body/spirit is a unified whole, not three individual and separate things as Western thought would have us believe. If one of these elements of an individual is under duress, all three suffer.
I used to study T'ai Ch'i Ch'uan as a martial art, and found it very calming as a meditative practice, as well. It incorporates well the Taoist ideal of wu wei.


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06 Dec 2007, 6:17 pm

I find that the Tao is very 'medicinal' for AS. It helps me recognize what i can change, and what i'm going to have to accept as a neurological encompment.



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06 Dec 2007, 9:51 pm

I'm very new to this. In fact, I just came back from getting my official diagnosis--sort of. So I need to explore this in depth still. I have no doubt that you are right. I am going to think deeply on this and see what comes to 'mind'.


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07 Dec 2007, 6:32 pm

Tai Chi and the associated philosophy has changed my life for the better in a single semester. I strongly suggest it to anyone. I have better balance, mentally and physically, better coordination, am calmer and less easily sent into meltdown mode... amongst many other benefits.



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07 Dec 2007, 11:50 pm

Cool... And you made your first post here!! !
Thanks manzanita, you are in my prayers!

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08 Dec 2007, 11:22 am

It's that special. :)

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09 Dec 2007, 2:53 am

Awwww!



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24 Dec 2007, 6:58 pm

The ancients who practiced the Way
did not enlighten the people with it;
They used it, rather, to stupify them.

The people are hard to rule
because they have too much knowledge.
Therefore,
Ruling a state through knowledge is to rob the state;
Ruling a state through ignorance
brings integrity to the state.

One who is always mindful of these two types
grasps a paradigm;
Mindfulness of this paradigm is called "mysterious integrity".

Deep and distant is this mysterious integrity!
It runs counter to things
until it reaches the great confluence.



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24 Dec 2007, 7:01 pm

I'm back!! !! !!

I slacked off on this recently because of a move i just took and now i am more motivated to continue preaching the Way.

I hopefully will upload a new passage everyday until something else is taking my time...

Enjoy! :D



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28 Dec 2007, 12:31 am

If I were possessed of the slightest knowledge,
traveling on the great Way,
My only fear would be to go astray.
The great Way is quite level,
but the people are much enamored of mountain trails.

The court is thoroughly deserted,
The fields are choked with weeds,
The granaries are altogether empty.

Still there are some who
wear clothes with fancy designs and brilliant colors,
sharp swords hanging at their sides,
are sated with food,
overflowing with possessions and wealth.

This is called "the brazenness of a bandit."
The brazenness of a bandit is surely not the Way!



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01 Jan 2008, 9:44 pm

The Tao Te Ching is great, the Stephen Mitchell version is my favorite translation. I also admire many Buddhist writers and poets, like Cold Mountain and Ikkyu.



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01 Jan 2008, 10:44 pm

I wouldn't say that is what religion I am but if I had to choose one that matched closest to my beliefs I'd say Taoism :) The Tao Te Ching is amazing



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02 Jan 2008, 9:18 pm

Understanding others is knowledge,
Understanding oneself is enlightenment;
Conquering others is power,
Conquering oneself is strength;
Contentment is wealth,
Forceful conduct is willfulness;
Not losing ones rightful place is to endure,
To die but not be forgotten is longevity.



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03 Jan 2008, 1:51 am

Woo hoo. Late comer to this thread. I read Steven Mitchell's Dao De Jing once, but in an Asian literature class I took I came upon my favorite Daoist, Zhuangzi. I fell in love with his work, but I lent it away and haven't seen it since. :( He doesn't have the straightforward brevity that Laotzu had, but the tells sometimes cute, sometimes funny, sometimes dreamlike stories.

My favorite parables:

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HuiZi said to ZhuangZi, "The Prince of Wei gave me a seed of a large-sized kind of gourd. I planted it, and it bore a fruit as big as a five bushel measure. Now had I used this for holding liquids, it would have been too heavy to lift; and had I cut it in half for ladles, the ladles would have been too flat for such purpose. Certainly it was a huge thing, but I had no use for it and so I broke it up."

"It was rather you did not know how to use large things," replied ZhuangZi...."Now as to your five-bushel gourd, why did you not make a float of it, and float about over river and lake? And you complain of its being too flat for holding things! I fear your mind is stuffy inside."

source: http://chinapage.com/story/gourd.html

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Hui Shi said to Zhuangzi, "I have a large tree, of the sort people call a shu tree. Its trunk is too gnarled for measuring lines to be applied to it, its branches are too twisted for use with compasses or T-squares. If you stood it on the road, no carpenter would pay any attention to it Now your talk is similarly vast but useless, people are unanimous in rejecting it."

Zhuangzi replied, "Haven't you ever seen a wildcat or a weasel? It crouches down to wait for something to pass, ready to pounce east or west, high or low, only to end by falling into a trap and dying in a net But then there is the yak. It is as big as a cloud hanging in the sky. It has an ability to be big, but hardly an ability to catch mice. Now you have a large tree but fret over its uselessness. Why not plant it in Nothing At All town or Vast Nothing wilds? Then you could roam about doing nothing by its side or sleep beneath it. Axes will never shorten its life and nothing will ever harm it. If you are of no use at all, who will make trouble for you?"

source:http://acc6.its.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~phalsall/texts/chuangtz.html

Zuangzi is also the author of the rather well known story of the man who dreamt he was a butterfly...

In my translation, "Nothing at all town or vast nothing wilds" was simply rendered as "The Land of nothing whatever";I've always loved that: Hui Shi and Zhuangzi wandering together in the land of nothing whatever.


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03 Jan 2008, 6:33 am

I am in to taoism :)


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