Whats with the leftwing bent of Wrongplanet?
Since all three of the competitors for the US presidency are up to their ears in obligations to those national forces which control the business economy and the legislatures wave their hands in several directions but consistently support the business interests it does not look likely that much change will take place in the slide of the American economy and the decline in the standard of living. When New Yorkers start wearing rubber boots to work and Florida is a mere fond memory perhaps they will start to get serious about global warming. Boat sales, no doubt, will do well.
Has America ever even had a proper fascist right-wing government? An actual hardcore one, with the jackboots and saluting and pogroms and whatnot?
I'm thinking not, which I suspect means that an american view of what is right or left or liberal or facist is perhaps not going to bear much resemblance to a european opinion of the same.
How this reflects in the autistic spectrum.... UK aspies seem to be treated with a degree more liberalism than US ones, though I cant speak for other european nations. If anything, we have been ignored or sidelined, rather than mistreated. Does that then mean that our own attitudes are somewhat more liberal? Quite possibly yes. It does seem that the more right-wing posters on WP come from the states, rather than europe, though again that might be simply because of definition differences. (See earlier post from the Dutch poster.)
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"There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart,
that you can't take part" [Mario Savo, 1964]
Although I am white and a former New Yorker I was peripherally involved in the movement for black rights back in the 1960's and even had a cross burnt on my lawn in Tennessee. Although the federal government was not openly totalitarian many of the local governments used their local police forces not unlike the way that the Nazis persecuted the Jews although they were not as well organized. Nevertheless many black people lived under what could only be considered totalitarian conditions. The history of the USA is replete with persecution of various minorities which admittedly was not as thorough or well organized or as total as what the Jews experienced in Germany and Poland and neighboring countries. Nevertheless the seeds are there and the security panics regularly stimulated by the current administration indicates that a certain fertility for absolutism still resides.
I find it highly unclear if the current US administration is supposed to be right wing or not, and if it is, how that affects the imcidence of right-wing aspies (or not.)
Assuming for a moment that the US truly was a totalitarian state, would that then mean an increase in totalitarian aspie posters, or an increase in liberal ones? Or would someone drop a soviet bloc on the whole thing and we wouldnt see any americans at all, because they werent allowed here? Surely the fact that there is such a mix of both liberal and not here is indicative of the fact that the states arent all that hardcore?
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"There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart,
that you can't take part" [Mario Savo, 1964]
Let me explain to you how Al-Qaida works. It works covertly in order to penetrate civilized nations such as ours. It works through sleeper cells. It works through recruiting peaceful Muslim Americans, through extremist mosques which indoctrinate moderate Muslims and fills them with anti-American rage, preceding orders to blow up this or that American landmark. It's not exactly a new thing; radical Muslims have been wreaking terrorist attacks on the U.S. and the rest of the world on a regular basis. No other major religion advocates global terrorism -- only Islam. Islam has a fatwa on America, whether Griff wishes to believe it or not.
The bolded part is complete, utter BS. I know a several American citizens who are Muslims are they are all proud Americans and hate Islamic terrorism. How DARE you slander your fellow Americans in such a despicable way.
Okay, that's a non sequitur. Meaning your response has nothing to do with my quote.
I leave it to you to figure out how, and I await your apology.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Oh-kay...
Isn't that the absolutely primary duty of government -- to protect its citizens from invading forces?
Let me explain to you how Al-Qaida works. It works covertly in order to penetrate civilized nations such as ours. It works through sleeper cells. It works through recruiting peaceful Muslim Americans, through extremist mosques which indoctrinate moderate Muslims and fills them with anti-American rage, preceding orders to blow up this or that American landmark. It's not exactly a new thing; radical Muslims have been wreaking terrorist attacks on the U.S. and the rest of the world on a regular basis. No other major religion advocates global terrorism -- only Islam. Islam has a fatwa on America, whether Griff wishes to believe it or not.
Tone what down?
Actually, our military personnel have killed quite a few al Qaida operatives and high-ranking leaders during the War in Iraq -- or hadn't you bothered to notice?
I hate to break it to you, man: we're winning in Iraq. Now, go and have yourself a good cry.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Imagine for one second if instead of spending trillions upon trillions of American tax dollars to secure tomorrows energy through the acquisition of Iraqi oil fields the money would have been spent here in America on Americans. Imagine if that money had been used to bail out social security or fund the development of alternative energy sources.
What would we have done with the horrible dictator Saddam you ask? We certainly could have flipped a coin.
Heads>
We do nothing. Why should we care? We dont care about any of the other third world dictators out there oppressing their people and denying them democracy. The only difference with Saddam was that he personally insulted BushI so BushII emptied the coffers going after him. Yeah we hung him for talking trash but at what cost? Certainly you dont believe it had anything to do with 911.
Tails>
Nuke Iraq. Explain to the Iraqi people that the only way for them to stop it is to overthrow Saddam. Give them three days. After three days if they are not dragging his body through the streets begin the shock and awe. Ultimately drop nukes big enough to rattle the bones of Mohammad himself. Let it be an example to Iran. Guaranteed three days later the people of Iran are dragging Ahmadikjobs body through the street. After that we can introduce them to democracy, send their kids to Bible school or whatever doesnt matter. I believe most people generally want to do the right thing.. they just need a little motivation.
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Oh-kay...
Isn't that the absolutely primary duty of government -- to protect its citizens from invading forces?
Let me explain to you how Al-Qaida works. It works covertly in order to penetrate civilized nations such as ours. It works through sleeper cells. It works through recruiting peaceful Muslim Americans, through extremist mosques which indoctrinate moderate Muslims and fills them with anti-American rage, preceding orders to blow up this or that American landmark. It's not exactly a new thing; radical Muslims have been wreaking terrorist attacks on the U.S. and the rest of the world on a regular basis. No other major religion advocates global terrorism -- only Islam. Islam has a fatwa on America, whether Griff wishes to believe it or not.
Tone what down?
Actually, our military personnel have killed quite a few al Qaida operatives and high-ranking leaders during the War in Iraq -- or hadn't you bothered to notice?
I hate to break it to you, man: we're winning in Iraq. Now, go and have yourself a good cry.
so far as killing operatives that never works they just get replaced by another person. It is like the mafia, they have it all planned out. I do not think it our place to force a country to be democratic or not radically muslim. As far as extremist christian and muslims they actually have much in common. Why is it ok to destroy extremist muslims, but not extremist christians? Have you ever heard of the KKK
Let me explain to you how Al-Qaida works. It works covertly in order to penetrate civilized nations such as ours. It works through sleeper cells. It works through recruiting peaceful Muslim Americans, through extremist mosques which indoctrinate moderate Muslims and fills them with anti-American rage, preceding orders to blow up this or that American landmark. It's not exactly a new thing; radical Muslims have been wreaking terrorist attacks on the U.S. and the rest of the world on a regular basis. No other major religion advocates global terrorism -- only Islam. Islam has a fatwa on America, whether Griff wishes to believe it or not.
The bolded part is complete, utter BS. I know a several American citizens who are Muslims are they are all proud Americans and hate Islamic terrorism. How DARE you slander your fellow Americans in such a despicable way.
Okay, that's a non sequitur. Meaning your response has nothing to do with my quote.
I leave it to you to figure out how, and I await your apology.
Pointing out that at least 99% of Americans that are Muslims are loyal citizens is NOT a fallacy. And "AQ" is not in the US because "AQ" does not exist as a unitary entity anymore, it has become an ideological label for wimpy little Islamist groups that pop up in Europe and the Middle East and want to look like they are hot stuff.
I am so sick of people complaining about mutlicutluralism being forced on them or multi religions. the point of multiculturalism is to increase the acceptance of all cultures, so that is including your own, you are a culture. Just as religous pluralism means the respect of all religions including yours. How would one feel if they went to another country and forced to give up their way of life?
What would we have done with the horrible dictator Saddam you ask? We certainly could have flipped a coin.
Heads>
We do nothing. Why should we care? We dont care about any of the other third world dictators out there oppressing their people and denying them democracy. The only difference with Saddam was that he personally insulted BushI so BushII emptied the coffers going after him. Yeah we hung him for talking trash but at what cost? Certainly you dont believe it had anything to do with 911.
Tails>
Nuke Iraq. Explain to the Iraqi people that the only way for them to stop it is to overthrow Saddam. Give them three days. After three days if they are not dragging his body through the streets begin the shock and awe. Ultimately drop nukes big enough to rattle the bones of Mohammad himself. Let it be an example to Iran. Guaranteed three days later the people of Iran are dragging Ahmadikjobs body through the street. After that we can introduce them to democracy, send their kids to Bible school or whatever doesnt matter. I believe most people generally want to do the right thing.. they just need a little motivation.
there is something called the UN
Yeah you're right. That whole "Oil for food" thing was going great.
seriously though
When the next American revolution takes place and our national guard is scattered to the wind. I want to see some blue helmets out there directing traffic and shooting looters.
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seriously though
When the next American revolution takes place and our national guard is scattered to the wind. I want to see some blue helmets out there directing traffic and shooting looters.
comapred to america meddling in foreign relations I would much rather have the UN.
last time we tried this with vietnam it did not go so well