1948, Israel and the Palestinians: The True Story

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Rag, this is what liberals do.

They support Palestine merely because it "feels" right. Not just Palestine, but wherever there is an underdog. This is why when a gay muslim from Iran tries to flee to Britain, it's the liberals who do their damndest to send him back, and the conservatives who do their damndest (and luckily succeed) to provide him refuge.

No, liberals don't give a damn about facts. That's why when you take a situation like Israel/Palestine, liberals will omit facts, ignore facts, take facts out of context, and if all else fails, lie through their fucking teeth.

Skafather isn't just wrong and stupid, he KNOWS he's wrong and stupid, and this vitriol coming from him is his frustration at being backed into a corner where he can't defend himself.

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The Jewish people even have to wander in their own state. There is no rest from the hamascide bombers, Gaza-located rockets and the Anti-Jewish/Israeli press, striking from both without and within.

I have been studying this issue for years, and while no side is completely innocent, I will cast my lot with the Israelis. I would rather be living in a democracy where citizens have equal rights than some Arab/Islamic nation where I have fewer rights than a pile of garbage.

I read all the articles provided by the various posters and the information cemented my position. It is interesting that Israel can be so freely condemned by non-Jews but if I wrote such a piece directed at Syria, or hamas controlled Gaza I would have a Fatwa directed against me. My words would be twisted as an affront against Allah, or some other such prophet/holy book that I have no interest in.

So call me an f****** idiot, scum, foolish, ignorant, stupid. I am glad I still have the right to say what I think, as do all the posters here.

The legal and credible reason to allow Jews to have a land is:

a) a people need a land. Palestinians too need a land but they have constantly rebuffed. How many peace treaties, cease-fires, and accords have been reached? You'd expect something by now.

b) a sense of unity amongst the Jews. Where else would the Jews go to be one? Do you think Russia will open up some of their great lands to house Jews in their millions? Arab Jews, North African Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Ashkenazim, Iranian Jews, South Asian Jews, Central Asian Jews, Balkan Jews. Does anyone in their right minds believe any country will accept them? To practice as they see fit?

c) a sense of historical ties. The Jews feel a sense of closeness to the Land of Israel. How many Arabs allowed them pilgrimage to the Holy Lands? Jordan didn't even allow them entrance. No one accepts the Jews. No one will accept the Jews. Now that they have a state, they can afford to not care about what the rest of the world thinks. They have that which they have always wanted. It should not be held against them that many are trying to destroy the offers they have given, the hope that they have.


None can say Israel is innocent, but to say they are guilty of everything that has happened and wanting to "dismantle Israel" is antisemitic. After all, such an option would put them back in the state of roaming the earth again. How sympathetic and compassionate you people are. After having the Palestinians become refugees, you now want the Israelis to become one too.