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Do you believe in a God or follow any sort of religion?
yes (I'm aspie/autie) 41%  41%  [ 127 ]
no (I'm aspie/autie) 55%  55%  [ 170 ]
yes (I'm NT) 3%  3%  [ 8 ]
no (I'm NT) 2%  2%  [ 5 ]
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11 Aug 2008, 2:55 am

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Realy I thought most big christians were realy against the mariage between parent and child. We are but children to him afterall, and he is our father, or what about shepard is it good for a shepard to marry there herd.


Parables and analogies are only meaningful in their proper context, which is not how you're playing with them in this attemptedly ludicrous manner.



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11 Aug 2008, 3:44 am

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Marriage between parent and child? No, that would be incest. Incest is a big no-no.

What if both are adults and it is consensual?


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11 Aug 2008, 3:53 am

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Marriage between parent and child? No, that would be incest. Incest is a big no-no.

What if both are adults and it is consensual?


Nope. Still incest.

Blood relations may not marry one another.



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11 Aug 2008, 3:58 am

slowmutant wrote:
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Marriage between parent and child? No, that would be incest. Incest is a big no-no.

What if both are adults and it is consensual?


Nope. Still incest.

Blood relations may not marry one another.

How did Adam and Eve family manage then? :P


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11 Aug 2008, 3:59 am

greenblue wrote:
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Marriage between parent and child? No, that would be incest. Incest is a big no-no.

What if both are adults and it is consensual?


Nope. Still incest.

Blood relations may not marry one another.

How did Adam and Eve family managed then? :P


They were bone relations.


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11 Aug 2008, 4:00 am

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They were bone relations.

That means that Eve was Adam's clone. The question is, is having a relationship with one's clone, incest?

I actually meant, how did Adam and Eve have grandchildren?


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11 Aug 2008, 4:04 am

I've wondered that myself. The wives of Cain ands Abel, for example, are introduced out of the blue with no absolutely no fanfare. Where did these other people come from if Adam, Eve, and the boys were the first humans ever???

That's why it's best not to read these stories too closely. :wink:



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11 Aug 2008, 4:06 am

Adam and Eve were obviously related, and that's why we're all distant cousins. :wink:



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11 Aug 2008, 4:14 am

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I've wondered that myself. The wives of Cain ands Abel, for example, are introduced out of the blue with no absolutely no fanfare. Where did these other people come from if Adam, Eve, and the boys were the first humans ever???

That's why it's best not to read these stories too closely. :wink:

Maybe, but that is very morbidly interesting. :P

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Adam and Eve were obviously related, and that's why we're all distant cousins.

Then all have been committed distant incest ;)


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11 Aug 2008, 4:39 am

Only if you take that story to be literal truth.



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11 Aug 2008, 5:09 am

greenblue wrote:
burnse22 wrote:
They were bone relations.

That means that Eve was Adam's clone. The question is, is having a relationship with one's clone, incest?

I actually meant, how did Adam and Eve have grandchildren?


The laws were given around 2,500 years after Adam and Eve.



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11 Aug 2008, 5:15 am

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That means that Eve was Adam's clone. The question is, is having a relationship with one's clone, incest?


Eve was not Adam's clone. Obviously, they were different. One was male and the other was female. Eve was taken from Adam by God to be his companion and helper. You're getting silly-stupid now and missing the whole point of the story. It's not about clones or incest. That's all beside the point.



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11 Aug 2008, 5:58 am

I take a great deal of what is in the bible to be symbolic, another idea may have also been politicaly corect for the period it was written and therefore not applicable now. I just used the point to show things can change, if certain things that may have been thought then, then the bible may have not been suported by the church. Who knows maybe the church thought male and male relations were dirty and then interpreted that god thought the same. How do you know that some of what god hs supposed to want was not controled by politics.


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11 Aug 2008, 6:01 am

Symbolic doesn't mean inacurrate.



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11 Aug 2008, 6:05 am

Bradleigh wrote:
I take a great deal of what is in the bible to be symbolic, another idea may have also been politicaly corect for the period it was written and therefore not applicable now. I just used the point to show things can change, if certain things that may have been thought then, then the bible may have not been suported by the church. Who knows maybe the church thought male and male relations were dirty and then interpreted that god thought the same. How do you know that some of what god hs supposed to want was not controled by politics.


What politics? You're saying politics influenced the Bible (say the Torah scribes and all of the scribes of the New Testament)? How would that make any sense?



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11 Aug 2008, 6:18 am

The Bible is very much a political document now, so I wonder if it was political while it was being written? I don't know.