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04 Dec 2008, 6:14 am

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If you really want to SAVE MARRIAGE..........

... make divorce illegal

That's as unfair as preventing same-sex couples from marrying. How many people would be trapped in loveless and abusive marriages if divorce were illegal?

Should've thought of that before they got married. ;]

Yes, it's a very good idea to make divorce ilegal, once they make that choice they stay with it for the rest of their lives, only death should separate what God has united.

You assume a religious ceremony being involved,

It's against the rules for a catholic to get divorced, but the only penalty seems to be they won't marry you to someone else.

However, in the words of Sam Kinison (who was paraphrasing Pope JP2), "Suck the cock, ya lose the kingdom!"

A secular wedding isn't bound by the rules of religion though, and codifying private sphere morals would be a violation of church and state.

Whether you remain married for life is a personal moral decision. Remaining married is usually the morally right thing to do when children are involved, unless one partner is abusive. (f*****g around, while destructive of the relationship, does not affect the ability to raise children). If there are no children, then there is no moral obligation to remain married.

But such a policy of banning divorce would be a worse violation of seperation of church and state, and intrusion upon private sphere morality, then the current ban on gay marriage is.

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04 Dec 2008, 7:46 am

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However, in the words of Sam Kinison (who was paraphrasing Pope JP2), "Suck the cock, ya lose the kingdom!"

Don't throw stones if you have three chromosomes. I'm Catholic and I take offence to that.

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04 Dec 2008, 7:58 am

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However, in the words of Sam Kinison (who was paraphrasing Pope JP2), "Suck the cock, ya lose the kingdom!"

Don't throw stones if you have three chromosomes. I'm Catholic and I take offence to that.

Nice one.

But that was a direct Kinison quote..... of course it's offensive, did you ever see one of his routines?

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04 Dec 2008, 8:03 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0_HDqGXrSA

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04 Dec 2008, 8:04 am

flutter wrote:

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However, in the words of Sam Kinison (who was paraphrasing Pope JP2), "Suck the cock, ya lose the kingdom!"

Don't throw stones if you have three chromosomes. I'm Catholic and I take offence to that.

Nice one.

But that was a direct Kinison quote..... of course it's offensive, did you ever see one of his routines?

Whatever. I really don't like blasphemy. It's hateful to me.

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04 Dec 2008, 8:14 am

quoting someone else who put catholic dogma into plain (if crass) language, and then linking to a youtube of him saying the quote... and somehow I'm the one being blasphemous?

It's a matter of public record that the scene he describes in the routine is factual. JP2 told aids victims in San Fransisco that they couldn't be saved.

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09 Dec 2008, 12:33 am

I am saying this from a Christian's point of view.

I personally don't believe gay marriage is natural. If we were meant to be gay, we wouldn't have male and female genitals. The whole concept of sex wouldn't even make sense. So I personally choose not to follow down that path.

HOWEVER, I still acknowledge the fact that this is MY subjective point of view on the matter. Somebody else's view on moral and immoral could be completely different than mine. So what the homosexual community decides to do is none of my beezwax. If I don't like it, I don't have to be a homosexual.

So I'd say, let the homosexual community marry if it wishes to. If God really has a problem with it, let him deal with it. Stay out of other people's sexual lives.

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09 Dec 2008, 12:36 am

Well-said.

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10 Dec 2008, 11:57 am

slowmutant wrote:

flutter wrote:

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However, in the words of Sam Kinison (who was paraphrasing Pope JP2), "Suck the cock, ya lose the kingdom!"

Don't throw stones if you have three chromosomes. I'm Catholic and I take offence to that.

Nice one.

But that was a direct Kinison quote..... of course it's offensive, did you ever see one of his routines?

Whatever. I really don't like blasphemy. It's hateful to me.

what like Vikings killing Missionaries for sport sort of blasphemy?

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10 Dec 2008, 12:09 pm

Kilroy wrote:

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flutter wrote:

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However, in the words of Sam Kinison (who was paraphrasing Pope JP2), "Suck the cock, ya lose the kingdom!"

Don't throw stones if you have three chromosomes. I'm Catholic and I take offence to that.

Nice one.

But that was a direct Kinison quote..... of course it's offensive, did you ever see one of his routines?

Whatever. I really don't like blasphemy. It's hateful to me.

what like Vikings killing Missionaries for sport sort of blasphemy?

That's not really blasphemy, but it is unpleasant.

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10 Dec 2008, 12:16 pm

but very funny :lol:

thats where we get angels on trees

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10 Dec 2008, 12:27 pm

We get angels on trees from Vikings killing Christian missionaries for sport?

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10 Dec 2008, 12:28 pm

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We get angels on trees from Vikings killing Christian missionaries for sport?

yeah putting the angels on christmas trees originated from the viking "practice" of impaling missionaries on top of pine trees
They did it first on Yule and Christians came and took it.

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10 Dec 2008, 12:38 pm

Kilroy wrote:

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We get angels on trees from Vikings killing Christian missionaries for sport?

yeah putting the angels on christmas trees originated from the viking "practice" of impaling missionaries on top of pine trees
They did it first on Yule and Christians came and took it.

As as usual, the history behind Christian practises is suprisingly gruesome. The figure who we now know as Saint Nick was once the Greco-Roman god Chronos, who devoured his own children. The figure of Saint Nick has a very interesting history.

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10 Dec 2008, 12:42 pm

yeah he has several origina Santa
he takes from a lot of things
most things Christian come from something pagan

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10 Dec 2008, 12:45 pm

Kilroy wrote:

yeah he has several origina Santa
he takes from a lot of things
most things Christian come from something pagan

Yes! That's why church history is so fascinating to me. It's just fascinating, how many disparate elements came together to produce this one thing.

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