if you voted for obama then you are a racist

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so what, you made a survey and asked all black people what their motivation was? or are you just a mind-reader?

and the fact that black people voted for white candidates up to this point, in all the previous elections, doesn't matter at all for you?

What? Really? Voting for a black guy makes me a racist?

Well, s**t, guess I'd better go lynch me a cracker.

This is stupid, people voted en-masse for Obama because they were sick and tired of the statust quo. Obama / Clinton it really would not have made a difference, what you are doing is extrapolating your racist way of thinking onto the rest of the population. Your views are ignorant and simplistic.

No, not everyone is a mongrel. Of course, it took thousands upon thousands of years of evolution for us to become white, to put an abrupt end to that/ acting genetically irresponsible would be the same as saying you wouldn't care if our race fell off the face of the earth. Are you suggesting that I believe the white man evolved seperately from blacks? That's just rediculous. Saying that ethnic classification does not exist is like saying there couldn't possibly be races out there who haven't strayed from their genetic backgrounds since they have technically begun, which is complete BS. There are many whites out there who have no jewish or otherwise backgrounds in their family names as far back as it could possibly go. Sadly this is beginning to become less and less of a reality, and one day everything about old Europe will become entirely part jewish/ arabian and the thousands of years of evolution would have to start all over again. Are you saying thats fair? Also, what gives them the right to just move in by the thousands and replace my race with theirs? I mean hell, I already lost my folks religions to people like them now we are going to lose our physical identity too. It's wrong, and disgusting.

I don't understand what value being white holds to you. what difference does it make whatever race people will be in years to come?

It's because it's the physical identity (part of the identity of my ancestors cultures that I love and want to continue). For example, it would be kind of silly for a muslim to be wearing a viking helmet. So why would he want to move to Sweden? There is nothing Swedish about him. If anything, it's offensive. He's not part of the land or culture, and no matter how long he stays there, he never will be. He will only make more and more generations of muslims until the white man is no longer dominant of the land that belongs to his own folk. This is a real problem out there right now!
They never move into one little spot and keep their little ways for themselves. Instead, the muslims bring their entire villages, demand more and more land, rights, and that there be more like him, when he doesn't belong there in the first place. All he ends up doing is destroying what was there before him. Any culture/land is fragile when it's leaders are careless. Imagine how their people would feel if we filled their lands with hordes of white people, and their streets with our white children? Suddenly the muslim way of life is beginning to fade away. If that did happen, well, now they know what it's like.
Since I am from the US, I can't be hypocritical here. My country has never had one culture of whites that lasted for hundreds of generations, so I really don't care if it becomes a mixed pot.

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^^you're not making much sense, just blowing steam out of your bigot ass.

I'm nomadic by nature and I had to take crap like that on a regular basis, but I've never so far heard any *logical* arguments for racial/national purity.

if someone has a passport and a work permit they have every right to be in whatever country they wish, to settle there and breed and pay taxes and get benefits. if a person grows up in an environment where they can't peacefully work, care for their families and fulfill their goals they are naturally drawn to places where they can have that. it's human nature.

and I don't see why it would be silly for a muslim to wear a viking helmet any more than it would be for a Scandinavian person.

being part of a certain culture has *nothing* to do with race, so here you're also mistaken.

you are also mistaken about the "culture of whites that lasted for hundreads of generations". and even if you were right, you still fail to explain what value there is in a culture being white.

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this is just pure tautology. if you don't plan on making sense then why do you even post?

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The OP (and others) whilst mangling the concept quite badly, have raised an interesting point.. there is a bias in the world over national and ethnic pride. It does seem that it is acceptable to be proud of say.. your black ancestry.. your african roots (bearing in mind that black african nations have engaged in genocide, invasion, slavery and such, so they have not always been a pleasant and huggy group.). but to state pride in anglo-saxon roots or heritage is regarded as suspect or just plain racist and xenophobic. Now, both (all?) ethnic groups and all nations have engaged in dubious activities at one point or another (of the slaving/invading etc nature), so why is the onus of evil brought only on those with a white or european heritage? That is what the OP seems to be trying to say.. that there is a bias at work, and it is not based on performance etc, but on race. I don't happen to think that Obama was elected just because he was black, although it will be the case that people will have voted based on that....I do believe there is an inequality in such things as saying "voting for colour is acceptable so long as that colour is not white".. which has also occured.

TBH Macbeth, I don't see the point in being proud of anything that you didn't achieve yourself, so it's equally stupid to be proud of being black/white/of certain nationality. people are born to their race and nationality, but what they accomplish in life is *their* achievement. if you have no achievements then all you have is to bathe in your ancestors glory, which you personally had nothing to do with.

if someone insists on priding themselves in belonging to a certain ethnic/national group, they should also take the crimes of their ancestors on their shoulders, yet no one seems to be willing to do that.

Ethnic pride topic

I think it is possible to be proud of the good things about one's heritage. There are also bad things, and it is important to learn from the bad parts.

Obama has Caucasian heritage as well as African. He is all too aware of abuses of both his ancestors.

I guess some ethnic groups have done worse than others.

I did not vote for Barack because I am Canadian. If I was American I would have voted for his policies. If Hilary Rodham Clinton was running, I would not have voted for her because she is a woman. I certainly would not vote for Sarah Palin, as she is a Republican, and I do not agree with those politics.

This is not the first time an African American has run for president, but it was the first time one had the best chance of winning. I would imagine most AAs would vote for Obama because they see themselves reflected in him. Americans of colour have been through terrible times because of colour, and I see how hopeful they are to feel part of mainstream politics because of Obama. If I was an ordinary African American voter in the US, I would not feel comfortable with George Bush or John McCain. Nothing in the latter's agenda said anything positive for people of colour. Barack did. He also has the vote of the younger crowd because he likes to use the same technology as the young people. I do not think McCain had the same appeal.

May Obama and his administration accomplish all the good deeds they have set for themselves, and may the American people participate/benefit in this.

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I don't spend a whole lot of time considering the opinions of people I believe to be ignorant irrespective of their race. I'm equally nonplussed by white people voting white as I am by black people voting black... But I think you're wrong about the election. Yes there were black people who voted black. There were also a lot of white people who voted white. My expectation is that they were likely in roughly equivalent numbers, such that even if the election were decided on the basis of a popular vote, it would have been an even playing field essentially. However, the presidential election isn't decided on a popular vote anyway, so ultimately my neighbor's voting decision doesn't count for anything. Because the only votes that made any difference were the electoral college votes placed by the various representatives. And those guys historically have frequently chosen to vote contrary to the way their constituents place their votes. And my bet would be that most of them didn't give any consideration at all to the color of Obama's skin.

The KKK is NOT self defense. You need to read up on your history.

A vote for Obama does not constitute a racial attack against white people. Frankly, that's just plain dumb. If I look at the actual issues and I decide that one candidate is a better bet on the basis of the actual issues, I'm not going to switch to support a guy who I know is a bad choice merely because other people are using bad information to inform their decision to support my preferred candidate. That's just plain stupid. That's like saying "ADT is a great security company, but some people choose ADT because their sales people are slick instead of because their service is good, so therefore because ADT gets some money for bad reasons, instead of choosing ADT, I'm going to go with Smash And Grab Security".

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its called the White house because it is painted..... white.