President Donald Trump!

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Amen.

I and others have discussed various reasons for his popularity. I do think those that focus just on issues are missing a lot. It is a mantra on this board that NT's are people who are wired to not say what they mean especially not to hurt feelings. Yet nearly every Trump voter I have seen say they are voting for him because he says what he means. I also do think a lot of Trump voters are voting for him because he is a bully like them. They were bullies back in the day when bullying was considered a normal part of growing up and if you could not suck it up it was your fault because you were weak. As adults they can get arrested for bullying behavoir and in the last few decades bullying behavoirs were looked down upon and in many cases using words that sounded offensive could get you fired. Trump comes along and bullies the establishment that they percieve caused the country to become a country of "scared wimps" promising to make the country "great again" meaning they will be allowed to put the weaklings in thier place. This "explanation" should not discount the anger that the same estsblishment instead of punishing the people that caused seemingly permenent damage to economy bailed them out.

Summing up the Trump voters have identified real problems. It is thier solution that is toxic in combination with no real alternatives. If America becomes a totalitarian state where the population cheers a strong leader putting the weak in thier place because they were convinced these others ruined the country we will join a loooong list.

I hate bullies; explains why I can't stand Trump. Or Cruz.

a long list of banana republics. a steep fall for a once-great nation.

You should hate Hilary too, by that logic. Notice I didn't say Bernie. I actually LIKE Bernie as a person, but not as a president.

so Trump is a "bully" because he's said some not nice things about Megyn Kelly and Jeb Bush boohoo

but somehow Hillary isn't a bully for personally shaming and threatening Bubba's rape victims into silence

it's just such nonsense, you people cannot discuss the issues that you are claiming Trump can't talk about. Trump has the clearest platform of anybody running, what is Hillary Clinton running on? Marco Rubio? Hillary tried her 'girl power' garbage and failed now, tried this failed America's grandma thing that she got blasted for, and now she's all for 'love and kindness' for the idiots who don't pay attention.

Lets have Hillary talk about the borders, trade, the wars, and jobs; she's been soul sister #1 for a while now with her ridiculous pandering to the black community which Sanders tried to match but the establishment Congressional Black Caucus has been decisive. Hillary is just such a fraud, the complete opposite campaign she ran in 2008 when she was deprived the minority vote so this time is supposed to be a coronation and the DNC. She has to repudiate everything she and her husband stood for, she was one of if not they worst Secretary of State's of all time, she's under FBI investigation, she has no qualifications and is not fit for office.

I just find that Trump is a cynic who totally doesn't care what end he uses to get what he wants.

I feel there are many who sense this about him, and are, thus, fearful.

Think about it: if he's in a cabinet meeting, and somebody offers a constructive suggestion which President Trump doesn't believe in, do you see him saying "You're fired!"? Just like in his reality show?

Being the leader of the Free World is not some reality show.

You believe what the media tells you, you do not think for yourself. You are very very foolish if you think Hillary Clinton has anything but contempt for the little people like you, it's so funny hearing her talk about 'love and kindness' when her whole political career has been the antithesis of that. She's a nasty mean old lady who has a FAKE marriage that she has maintained for more than 20-30 years to further her political career. If she divorced Bubba like any normal woman would back in the 80s, where would she be? She was a criminal attorney if I remember correctly, getting old child rapists and laughing about it. Sounds like a real nice person, love and kindness!

The reality is that most people are not that smart when it comes to politics, you have to dumb it down to a grade school level and it's mostly about hitting keywords and leaving impressions in people's minds. Listen to any of these candidates talk and find me the more substantive candidate than Trump, there just isn't any. Trump had a live press conference with questions from the media last night in the wake of his Super Tuesday victories, who else does that? When was the last time Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama stood up in front of reporters that they couldn't control the questions from? It's been years I think, seriously look it up. The rhetoric isn't matching the campaign, find me the substance in Hillary or Rubio's campaign. They're just bought and paid for pawns for the special interests, they have no values and loyalty to this country and will sell us out in a minute. Marco Rubio is a return to the Bush years altho I suspect Dubya beats him by a few IQ points, just a total airhead.

All the neoconservatives can be purged from the Republican party, all the establishment hacks, they are small in number and outsized in influence so they will not be missed. Some of them are talking about running 3rd party which is pretty hilarious if they think a Romney/Graham or whatever ticket would get over 2%. They will go back from wence they came, the Democratic party and vote for their ideological twin when it comes to foreign policy in Hillary. Goodbye Bill Kristol, goodbye Charles Krauthammer, goodbye Karl Rove, none of you will be missed. Lot of spring cleaning that needs to be done in the RNC, this true for DC in general. The trash needs to be taken out, I'd rather lose in a landslide and be rid of these evil globalists that have a stranglehold on the GOP than win with one of their controlled and owned candidates.

Just because I don't like Trump doesn't mean I care for Hillary too much, either.

You like Trump, so you will accentuate the positives of the man. Understandable.

Frankly, I don't like the fact that he's courting Putin. I don't like Soviet-type people. He's ex-KGB, and acts it. I don't want to live under even the hint of a Soviet-Communist type of regime.

You have found a reason to like him--perhaps he represents a change from the Status-quo?

Maybe you like his blunt talk, and his populist style.

Both are all fine--if accompanied by substance.

"people are not that smart when it comes to politics"

Case in point, Jacoby.

Putin is this monster but what about the Chinese or the Saudis or the Turks or any number of our so called "allies" aren't? It doesn't make a lot of sense. There is no reasonable way anybody can argue that Russia is a bigger threat to the United States than Saudi Arabia and we give them billions every year and run our entire foreign policy for them. They control Islam and are spreading a anti-western fundamentalist form of Islam that all the modern jihadist movements have evolved out of. Like I said, stop watching cable news and put your copy of Red Dawn away. Russia could be a great ally of the United States, much better than a lot of so called allies right now. Putin is a dirty evil communist now? I mean, it's just silly, how about we stop entangling alliances like our founders intended and start sticking up for what is best for America not Saudi Arabia or South Korea or Mexico or Israel.

Trump extending the olive branch shows that he is the only true independent thinker running, even Bernie Sanders tows the party line for the most part when it comes to foreign policy but he hasn't been some steadfast opponent of these overseas adventures and he sure as hell doesn't have the courage to call out these other countries by name. He won't be president tho so he is pointless to even talk about. Hillary Clinton wants us to fight a nuclear war against Russia, that is what a no fly zone means. Russians jets fly in Syria and Iraq that have been invited by the legitimate governments of those counties and they've made more progress against ISIS in just a few short months than we did in years. None of the other Republicans running have any clue on foreign policy, someone like Ben Carson who doesn't know that much about the subject is preferable to someone like Marco Rubio or John Kasich who want to start a global forever war. They're not more educated, they're bought and paid for!

We cannot defeat ISIS without working with the Russians and even then as long as two of our supposed close allies in Saudi Arabia and Turkey as well other Gulf states like Qatar are funding international terrorism we will never make any real progress. We'll squash one group and another will pop up somewhere else, it will be like this until we address the real head of the snake which Saudi Arabia and Wahabbi Islam. All the sabre rattling about Iran is from Saudi Arabia, a little bit from Israel but we make it seem like it is all from them because it would not be very politically popular if people knew that the Saudi dictatorship controls our foreign policy. Both Gulf Wars were for the Saudis, these are evil evil people who control the holy cities of Islam and thus can dictate to the rest of the Muslim world how they should worship.

It's case in point talking to people on here everyday who keep repeating the whatever garbage media narrative of the day, I hope some people read what I say and think about how they are being manipulated and what is truly in the interest of America. CNN lies, Fox News lies, the New York Times lies, they are all owned by these multinational corporations that will not advocate against their own best interest and that is who controls the flow of information. I know some people read my posts and agree with me, they've PM'd me and said as much.

if that comment was directed at me, then what does that make all of you?

We need Russia to help with ISIS--definitely. It doesn't mean we should extent the olive branch to Putin, though. He must be held accountable for his behavior.

We need to be somewhat "crafty" with Putin when it comes to ISIS. But we also have to know that Putin has as much of a vested interest in getting rid of ISIS as we do. So, again, we don't need to coddle him. He's not doing us any favors.

What "behavior"? Giving refuge to Edward Snowden? Stopping the US from turning another country over to a terrorist army? Any behavior we accuse Russia of we have been doing 10x worse for many years now. Russia has been fighting jihadists terrorists for decades, jihadist terrorists that the US has played a large role in creating and aiding along the way. Afghanistan, Chechnya, and Yugoslavia come with a price and we've experienced blowback from all these awful foreign policy decisions that our leaders have made.

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And you believe Trump's garbage, what's the difference?

Perhaps you should listen to people much smarter than you when it comes to subjects you know very little about