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04 Feb 2017, 3:44 am

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Why?

I hope he succeeds so he does a good job.


Can you imagine how embarrassing it will be for so many who have insisted he's the worst president in history and is an ignorant incompetent monster fascist dictator and all that, if he succeeds and does a good job?



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04 Feb 2017, 9:17 am

No matter what happens, we can count on Trump believing that he was the best president ever, and only his dishonest foes kept him from being even better.

There's widespread concern over his amazing numbers. State department staff are always signing these memoranda of dissent; there's no harm to it, and a lot of benefits if you think about it. How often are people willing to go on the record against groupthink? It should be encouraged. However, the numbers are typically below 200, not over 1000. Taking this formal expression of disagreement as equivalent to betrayal shows weakness and lack of values. Imagine the consternation in the HR department over at State when the administration suggested signers should resign.


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04 Feb 2017, 9:35 am

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Certain people will argue, "that's not us, those are anarchists!". But it seems to me that they are the ones who set the stage for these acts to take place. There's been incidences of violence from the beginning and it just keeps getting worse.


Considering the fact that the largest protest in American history, The Womens' March where millions of people flooded the streets without a single arrest, than yeah the overwhelming majority of the protesters are peaceful and non-violent. But that gets in the way of your agenda so that will probably just be dismissed by you guys.


The Pussyhat march was much more of a costume parade than a protest/riot. Just because that one got it right, doesn't excuse the rest that have wreaked havoc.

The real name was The Woman's March.Most attendees were not in costume,if you took the time to actually look at the people in the crowd you'd know that.
Wrecked havoc?Not really.You don't know much about the history of riots if you think that.


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04 Feb 2017, 9:46 am

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Secretive anti-Trump protests to erupt Super Bowl weekend in Houston. http://tiny.iavian.net/f2po


Effectively screwing with the Super Bowl will ensure that no democrat sits in the oval office until at least the middle of the next ice age.


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04 Feb 2017, 9:49 am

Time for all who disapprove of Trump to go on strike.
http://sfist.com/2017/02/02/nationwide_ ... ns_tra.php


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04 Feb 2017, 10:44 am

The cover of Der Spiegel

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04 Feb 2017, 10:45 am

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Secretive anti-Trump protests to erupt Super Bowl weekend in Houston. http://tiny.iavian.net/f2po



Some other good information from the Drudge report.


Drudge Report Stokes Iran Fears With Fake Missile Photo Featuring Jar Jar Binks

http://gizmodo.com/drudge-report-stokes ... 1791918585



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04 Feb 2017, 11:31 am

I had a hard time concentrating on the rest of the movie after seeing Jar Jar appointed to the Senate. I watched it again, and I had missed probably half of it because my mind kept chewing on that choice. I think of Jar Jar in a position of authority with wistfulness, today.

We're definitely heating up the war against Daesh. The conditions laid out make some problem with Iran virtually certain, perhaps up to an exchange of gunfire of some sort. A problem with Iran is also a problem with Russia; don't kid yourselves. Bannon apparently has written or said on record that war with China is inevitable; China reacts like you might expect. There's a big shakeup underway in North Korea; could be good or bad depending on how you read the limited signals available.

Hillary may have intended to take us to war with Russia, or push things toward that point. It looks like Trump will threaten military force fairly casually, and even authorize it over dinner. I'm having a hard time seeing how this is a better choice.


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04 Feb 2017, 12:26 pm

Moving away from appeasement towards China and rapprochement with Russia is the best decision the US can make, if you can justify then opening up relations with the genocidal communists in China as a hedge against the Soviet Union or the medieval theocracy in Saudi Arabia then how can anyone argue against allying with Russia to achieve our shared strategic goals? If the west is to survive then it NEEDS Russia because the axis that we'll have forced them into will rise with the tides and wipe us away, our civilization is collapsing and it might already be too late to reverse that but I'd rather try something and go done swinging rather than accept our enslavement.

With Iran, things are looking bad and there comes a point where we do have to decide whether or not the world can accept a nuclear Iran and if it can't then it seems that confrontation is inevitable. If the Arabs and Israelis want to go to war so much with Iran then they should do it themselves, it's not the US that is really threatened by Iran getting nuclear weapons. I wish the US and Iran could work things out diplomatically, I think this is where Trump has far more potential for good than people realize because Trump isn't part of the MIC that have been planning this stuff for decades. Another reason to fix our relationship with Russia is for Putin to play the mediator between the US and Iran. I do not believe that Trump or the people in this administration would support an invasion, they may be hardliners but they are not ideological neoconservatives which have been kept at a distance from this administration.(NeverTrump Republicans are almost all Bush era neocons)



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04 Feb 2017, 12:33 pm

Governing China requires building consensus. Russia is a plutocracy, plain and simple, complete with hit men.

I don't like either, but if I were to accept the false choice between allying with one or the other, I'd have more confidence in our ability to put pressure on China.


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04 Feb 2017, 12:50 pm

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Governing China requires building consensus. Russia is a plutocracy, plain and simple, complete with hit men.

I don't like either, but if I were to accept the false choice between allying with one or the other, I'd have more confidence in our ability to put pressure on China.


China is everything Russia is multiplied by a 1000, it's been a land ruled by feudal dictatorships almost as long as recorded history and that's the only way they can keep together this country of 2 billion people. China poses far more of a potential threat to the United States than Russia who is clearly signaling its willingness to foster closer relations with the US while China sees itself as the rising superpower that will soon rule the globe. Globalism is the system that will enslave us, the same globalist mechanisms we've used to subjugate less powerful nations will soon be wielded by the communist Chinese.



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04 Feb 2017, 1:37 pm

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things are getting real now

Trump may already be among the greatest presidents in American history



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04 Feb 2017, 4:08 pm

The independence of the Central Bank is essential to financial stability. Trump will be listed near Mugabe.


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04 Feb 2017, 4:20 pm

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The independence of the Central Bank is essential to financial stability. Trump will be listed near Mugabe.

Where does this mantra come from? The Federal Reserve was created in 1913, has there been financial stability since? Were things that unstable before? How is that a private bank totally unaccountable to congress controls our money? The constitution mentions nothing about central banking.



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04 Feb 2017, 5:51 pm

I have no problem with Trump. I agree with everything he's done so far. He's delivered on his promises to this day, so I think it's all good.


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04 Feb 2017, 6:32 pm

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I have no problem with Trump. I agree with everything he's done so far. He's delivered on his promises to this day, so I think it's all good.

This is exactly where I am also.


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