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09 Feb 2017, 12:20 pm

Woo Hoo!! !! !! TAX CUT PACKAGE COMING!! !! !!

SO THEN YOU CAN BUY IVANKA TRUMP ITEMS!! :mrgreen:


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09 Feb 2017, 12:24 pm

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This is how the left-wing media promotes its fake-news narrative.

Here are four headlines for the same story, arranged from neutral descriptive reporting (WSJ) to leftist anti-Trump propaganda (NYT):

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Having a negative opinion of certain actions being taken by the Trump administration is not the same as stating blatant false facts. "fake-news" applies to the latter, which has mostly been on the side of the White House.


There should be no personal opinions in news - only the facts.


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09 Feb 2017, 6:51 pm

Trump loses on Immigration, but he already tweeted that he's "going to see them in court!"
They are saying the judge was wrong in his ruling and he didn't have the power to override the President according to the Constitution.
More to come.......

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews. ... -sprint-us

They're saying they are in uncharted territory.... What a drama! :mrgreen:


UPDATE: Trump will have his decision in the next week on what comes next!


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09 Feb 2017, 7:41 pm

nurseangela wrote:
Trump loses on Immigration, but he already tweeted that he's "going to see them in court!"
They are saying the judge was wrong in his ruling and he didn't have the power to override the President according to the Constitution.
More to come.......

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews. ... -sprint-us

They're saying they are in uncharted territory.... What a drama! :mrgreen:


UPDATE: Trump will have his decision in the next week on what comes next!


As long as there's any hint of Trump banning people because of religion or ethnicity, it's unconstitutional.


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09 Feb 2017, 7:49 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Trump loses on Immigration, but he already tweeted that he's "going to see them in court!"
They are saying the judge was wrong in his ruling and he didn't have the power to override the President according to the Constitution.
More to come.......

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews. ... -sprint-us

They're saying they are in uncharted territory.... What a drama! :mrgreen:


UPDATE: Trump will have his decision in the next week on what comes next!


As long as there's any hint of Trump banning people because of religion or ethnicity, it's unconstitutional.


Nope, wasn't even unconstitutional when FDR put Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

One of the oldest laws on the books

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

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Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.

(R.S. § 4067; Apr. 16, 1918, ch. 55, 40 Stat. 531.)



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09 Feb 2017, 7:53 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Trump loses on Immigration, but he already tweeted that he's "going to see them in court!"
They are saying the judge was wrong in his ruling and he didn't have the power to override the President according to the Constitution.
More to come.......

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews. ... -sprint-us

They're saying they are in uncharted territory.... What a drama! :mrgreen:


UPDATE: Trump will have his decision in the next week on what comes next!


As long as there's any hint of Trump banning people because of religion or ethnicity, it's unconstitutional.


Nope, wasn't even unconstitutional when FDR put Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

One of the oldest laws on the books

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

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Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.

(R.S. § 4067; Apr. 16, 1918, ch. 55, 40 Stat. 531.)


I hope Trump pushes this as far as he can. If the courts are in the wrong, they need to be set straight.


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09 Feb 2017, 7:59 pm

The preschool level naivety of the left never ceases to amaze me...
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09 Feb 2017, 8:12 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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nurseangela wrote:
Trump loses on Immigration, but he already tweeted that he's "going to see them in court!"
They are saying the judge was wrong in his ruling and he didn't have the power to override the President according to the Constitution.
More to come.......

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews. ... -sprint-us

They're saying they are in uncharted territory.... What a drama! :mrgreen:


UPDATE: Trump will have his decision in the next week on what comes next!


As long as there's any hint of Trump banning people because of religion or ethnicity, it's unconstitutional.


Nope, wasn't even unconstitutional when FDR put Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

One of the oldest laws on the books

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

Quote:

Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.

(R.S. § 4067; Apr. 16, 1918, ch. 55, 40 Stat. 531.)


Last time I checked, the internment of Japanese Americans was a a stain on FDR's historic reputation, especially since those people were not enemy aliens but American citizens. Only a cretinous few defend the Japanese American internment today, among them that idiot Michelle Malkin of Fox Noise.
Incidentally, people who had been thoroughly vetted with green cards and given permanent residency had been banned. And the evil genius behind that last Steve Bannon, the guy who doubtlessly keeps his Brown Shirt uniform complete with Swastika armband in his closet. He probably plays white nationalist dress up with Sessions, who comes out wearing his white robe and pointy hood.


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09 Feb 2017, 8:17 pm

A judge on Fox is saying the Supreme Court will have to decide in favor of Trump and the Court is wrong. Trump needs to take it to the Supreme Court.


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09 Feb 2017, 8:22 pm

Unelected judges have no authority over the foreign policy and national security of the United States in regards to noncitizens. Non-US citizens not in US territory are not entitled to constitutional rights. The truth is if you know the history of the United States, you will know Trump's executive order is completely legal because the US actually did have racially tinged laws when it comes to immigration and resident aliens which were never repealed or found unconstitutional. I do not agree whatsoever with the racist characterization of this EO but people's feelings about it do not change the legality of the law even if there was racist intent.

The 9th Circuit is a disgrace and lessens the credibility of all courts in this country, this is straight up partisan jockeying and attempting to create law with no lawful authority.



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09 Feb 2017, 8:22 pm

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A judge on Fox is saying the Supreme Court will have to decide in favor of Trump and the Court is wrong. Trump needs to take it to the Supreme Court.


In his opinion.


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09 Feb 2017, 8:25 pm

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Unelected judges have no authority over the foreign policy and national security of the United States in regards to noncitizens. Non-US citizens not in US territory are not entitled to constitutional rights. The truth is if you know the history of the United States, you will know Trump's executive order is completely legal because the US actually did have racially tinged laws when it comes to immigration and resident aliens which were never repealed or found unconstitutional. I do not agree whatsoever with the racist characterization of this EO but people's feelings about it do not change the legality of the law even if there was racist intent.

The 9th Circuit is a disgrace and lessens the credibility of all courts in this country, this is straight up partisan jockeying and attempting to create law with no lawful authority.


Racist laws of the past need to be stricken from the books. This is the perfect opportunity to do it, as they are indefensible.


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09 Feb 2017, 8:37 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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A judge on Fox is saying the Supreme Court will have to decide in favor of Trump and the Court is wrong. Trump needs to take it to the Supreme Court.


In his opinion.


It's a she, bub. I think a Constitutional lawyer knows more about Constitutional Law than both you or I.


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09 Feb 2017, 8:45 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
Trump loses on Immigration, but he already tweeted that he's "going to see them in court!"
They are saying the judge was wrong in his ruling and he didn't have the power to override the President according to the Constitution.
More to come.......

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews. ... -sprint-us

They're saying they are in uncharted territory.... What a drama! :mrgreen:


UPDATE: Trump will have his decision in the next week on what comes next!


As long as there's any hint of Trump banning people because of religion or ethnicity, it's unconstitutional.


Nope, wasn't even unconstitutional when FDR put Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

One of the oldest laws on the books

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

Quote:

Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.

(R.S. § 4067; Apr. 16, 1918, ch. 55, 40 Stat. 531.)


Last time I checked, the internment of Japanese Americans was a a stain on FDR's historic reputation, especially since those people were not enemy aliens but American citizens. Only a cretinous few defend the Japanese American internment today, among them that idiot Michelle Malkin of Fox Noise.
Incidentally, people who had been thoroughly vetted with green cards and given permanent residency had been banned. And the evil genius behind that last Steve Bannon, the guy who doubtlessly keeps his Brown Shirt uniform complete with Swastika armband in his closet. He probably plays white nationalist dress up with Sessions, who comes out wearing his white robe and pointy hood.


I think the point is that it is not unconstitutional. I've seen and heard that a lot. "It's unconstitutional". That seems like a false statement people are buying into out of ignorance. I'm not saying I approve of it, but it is indeed constitutional.



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09 Feb 2017, 8:51 pm

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Nope, wasn't even unconstitutional when FDR put Japanese-Americans in internment camps.

One of the oldest laws on the books

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

Quote:

Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.

(R.S. § 4067; Apr. 16, 1918, ch. 55, 40 Stat. 531.)


And then there's this, from the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, from the U.S. Code on “Inadmissible Aliens” –

"Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

"Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

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09 Feb 2017, 8:59 pm

The damage being done to our nation's institutions by Democrat partisans in their petty ill thought out 'resistance' to Trump is irreversible; they are hollowing out our democracy by their politicization of the courts, law enforcement, and intelligence not to mention their iron grip on the media. This is a nation laws not the emotions of the mob, there is a legal process which things must be done in our democracy and these attempts to usurp it bring us that much closer to authoritarianism and dictatorship. Remember everything that Democrats do in opposition be applied to their future leaders and then some if they ever get back in power which they seem so determined on preventing. The courts didn't overturn Obama's signature accomplishment as president which was most definitely unconstitutional as no where in the constitution does it give the federal government the authority to force inactive people to buy private insurance.