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07 Mar 2015, 9:25 am

sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
AspE wrote:
sophisticated wrote:

Some more atheist logic:

Designed:

...

Not designed:

...

Birds are designoid. That is, they have the appearance of being designed, although they are not. Mutation generates variations on a form. Natural selection picks which one is less suited to it's environment based on reproductive success. That successful form is then the basis for new variations. We call it E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N. Can you say that? Evolution? I know you can.


In other words that which you call "nature" is a factory.

So basically a "lights out factory" popped into existence out of nothing and for no reason.

Fascinating.

way to minimize billions of years of change.. woohoo!


Just because you know how something evolves (e.g. muscles) doesn't mean you have an excuse to disbelieve in God.

You grow muscles by putting them under stress.

Stress is the cause and stronger/bigger muscles is the effect.

But ultimately all "effects" can be traced back to a sentient being that was not caused into existence by anything. He just existed since forever.

Evolution only strengthens my faith.


Just a quick and serious question;

perhaps a rhetorical one, depending

on the audience at hand...

Do you think GOD has a Penis.

If not, what is the meaning of the

metaphor

HE for GOD..

And if yes,

does GOD have a HUGe

penIS or a smALL PENis..

And if GOD has a huge penis

OR a small penis

what does GOD use that

PENIS for..

And if GOD does not

have a penis

and you are literally

speaking here..

What is a being without a

Penis..

a HE or 'something' else...


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07 Mar 2015, 9:38 am

sophisticated wrote:
Just because you know how something evolves (e.g. muscles) doesn't mean you have an excuse to disbelieve in God.

You grow muscles by putting them under stress.

Stress is the cause and stronger/bigger muscles is the effect.

But ultimately all "effects" can be traced back to a sentient being that was not caused into existence by anything. He just existed since forever.

Evolution only strengthens my faith.
Look here, So-Fisticated! It's not a matter of "I like vs you like". Who gives a pebble of goat s**t for the egomaniacal ramblings of the wisest of the foolish.



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07 Mar 2015, 9:50 am

aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
AspE wrote:
sophisticated wrote:

Some more atheist logic:

Designed:

...

Not designed:

...

Birds are designoid. That is, they have the appearance of being designed, although they are not. Mutation generates variations on a form. Natural selection picks which one is less suited to it's environment based on reproductive success. That successful form is then the basis for new variations. We call it E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N. Can you say that? Evolution? I know you can.


In other words that which you call "nature" is a factory.

So basically a "lights out factory" popped into existence out of nothing and for no reason.

Fascinating.

way to minimize billions of years of change.. woohoo!


Just because you know how something evolves (e.g. muscles) doesn't mean you have an excuse to disbelieve in God.

You grow muscles by putting them under stress.

Stress is the cause and stronger/bigger muscles is the effect.

But ultimately all "effects" can be traced back to a sentient being that was not caused into existence by anything. He just existed since forever.

Evolution only strengthens my faith.


Just a quick and serious question;

perhaps a rhetorical one, depending

on the audience at hand...

Do you think GOD has a Penis.

If not, what is the meaning of the

metaphor

HE for GOD..

And if yes,

does GOD have a HUGe

penIS or a smALL PENis..

And if GOD has a huge penis

OR a small penis

what does GOD use that

PENIS for..

And if GOD does not

have a penis

and you are literally

speaking here..

What is a being without a

Penis..

a HE or 'something' else...


I'm using "He" for lack of a better word.



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07 Mar 2015, 9:53 am

I think I've bumped into some strange ideas before. All kinds of out-of-control egomaniacs... utterly perverse nutcases.

Hmmm. Is this just a vehicle for Narcissists to capture vulnerable egotists?



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07 Mar 2015, 9:55 am

Oldavid wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Just because you know how something evolves (e.g. muscles) doesn't mean you have an excuse to disbelieve in God.

You grow muscles by putting them under stress.

Stress is the cause and stronger/bigger muscles is the effect.

But ultimately all "effects" can be traced back to a sentient being that was not caused into existence by anything. He just existed since forever.

Evolution only strengthens my faith.
Look here, So-Fisticated! It's not a matter of "I like vs you like". Who gives a pebble of goat s**t for the egomaniacal ramblings of the wisest of the foolish.


Only TRUE fools kNOwreal fools. ;)

And only the TRuly ignoRant

move to personal attacks

when they cannot express true

intelligence instead of

emotional fetter....

The lETTER of truth has no F..

UnLESsUCK..

And K
is
me....
too....
per
F**KING
FUNKINg..:)


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07 Mar 2015, 9:56 am

sophisticated wrote:
aghogday wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
AspE wrote:
sophisticated wrote:

Some more atheist logic:

Designed:

...

Not designed:

...

Birds are designoid. That is, they have the appearance of being designed, although they are not. Mutation generates variations on a form. Natural selection picks which one is less suited to it's environment based on reproductive success. That successful form is then the basis for new variations. We call it E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N. Can you say that? Evolution? I know you can.


In other words that which you call "nature" is a factory.

So basically a "lights out factory" popped into existence out of nothing and for no reason.

Fascinating.

way to minimize billions of years of change.. woohoo!


Just because you know how something evolves (e.g. muscles) doesn't mean you have an excuse to disbelieve in God.

You grow muscles by putting them under stress.

Stress is the cause and stronger/bigger muscles is the effect.

But ultimately all "effects" can be traced back to a sentient being that was not caused into existence by anything. He just existed since forever.

Evolution only strengthens my faith.


Just a quick and serious question;

perhaps a rhetorical one, depending

on the audience at hand...

Do you think GOD has a Penis.

If not, what is the meaning of the

metaphor

HE for GOD..

And if yes,

does GOD have a HUGe

penIS or a smALL PENis..

And if GOD has a huge penis

OR a small penis

what does GOD use that

PENIS for..

And if GOD does not

have a penis

and you are literally

speaking here..

What is a being without a

Penis..

a HE or 'something' else...


I'm using "He" for lack of a better word.


I appreciate your straight forward honesty. :)


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07 Mar 2015, 9:59 am

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How much proof do you need? :wink:


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07 Mar 2015, 10:03 am

Oldavid wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Just because you know how something evolves (e.g. muscles) doesn't mean you have an excuse to disbelieve in God.

You grow muscles by putting them under stress.

Stress is the cause and stronger/bigger muscles is the effect.

But ultimately all "effects" can be traced back to a sentient being that was not caused into existence by anything. He just existed since forever.

Evolution only strengthens my faith.
Look here, So-Fisticated! It's not a matter of "I like vs you like". Who gives a pebble of goat s**t for the egomaniacal ramblings of the wisest of the foolish.


Truth is truth whether we like it or not.



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07 Mar 2015, 10:10 am

Oldavid wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Just because you know how something evolves (e.g. muscles) doesn't mean you have an excuse to disbelieve in God.

You grow muscles by putting them under stress.

Stress is the cause and stronger/bigger muscles is the effect.

But ultimately all "effects" can be traced back to a sentient being that was not caused into existence by anything. He just existed since forever.

Evolution only strengthens my faith.
Look here, So-Fisticated! It's not a matter of "I like vs you like". Who gives a pebble of goat s**t for the egomaniacal ramblings of the wisest of the foolish.

I don't know that all of this began with Darwin and started off as an attack on Abrahamic faiths or an adaption by Abrahamic faiths in apology. Things like the Masonic 'Great Work', the Theosophic ideas of evolution, have a lot to do with belief in the regeneration of beings in higher states, in that case certain kinds of consciousness that are in an enrichment process - this is both in Hindu and Buddhist philosophy (on the esoteric side in Buddhism apparently Nirvana isn't the earned right to a materialist funeral but attainment of a state with so few familiar guideposts that they don't want to attempt describing it aside from for people who've already been running around Yetzirah/Devachan in their meditations and have built that sort of weirdness into a kind of normal). Seems like the Egyptians and Greek Philosophers like Pythagoras and Plato had plenty of intercommerce with the east on these ideas as well.

I guess at that point then we're asking a question that the title of the thread doesn't even touch or give scope to - ie. what 'kind' of God? If we're evolving to higher and higher states in successive incarnations by the 'work of the Sun' along with minerals, plants, and animals (the hypothesis here - consciousness is fundamental to matter as well as being arranged into higher orders to support more evolved forms of consciousness) - in one of it's more simplified forms in the west you'd be looking at the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus (also called the Tabula Smaragdina). If on the other hand you're dealing with the dualistic concept of good spirit vs. evil matter you're looking at the God of Mani and Zoroaster as well as what the influence of John's Revelation did to Christianity.

The reason I'm even bothering you with that or why you'd want to consider it - no idea where your beliefs are or aren't on the dualism or monism between matter and God - sophistocated may or may not have been making that up as a plug to justify his/her beliefs without research but I'd also suggest that traditions like Hermeticism, alchemy (philosophic - not 'puffing') and Kabbalah/Qabalah far outdate Darwin and seem to suggest a spiritual angle and periodicity to it whereas Darwin suggested the same thing these beliefs and Buddhism/Hinduism always have - he just took Occam's razor to the human soul, IMO not the brightest idea and toward the end of his life he recanted it as he saw the complexities of cells, but it was a potential idea in a vacuum and if he wouldn't have suggested it someone else would have.


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07 Mar 2015, 11:11 am

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07 Mar 2015, 11:13 am

sophisticated wrote:
Oldavid wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
Just because you know how something evolves (e.g. muscles) doesn't mean you have an excuse to disbelieve in God.

You grow muscles by putting them under stress.

Stress is the cause and stronger/bigger muscles is the effect.

But ultimately all "effects" can be traced back to a sentient being that was not caused into existence by anything. He just existed since forever.

Evolution only strengthens my faith.
Look here, So-Fisticated! It's not a matter of "I like vs you like". Who gives a pebble of goat s**t for the egomaniacal ramblings of the wisest of the foolish.


Truth is truth whether we like it or not.


QFW Quoted for Wisdom..:)


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07 Mar 2015, 6:34 pm

sophisticated wrote:
Narrator wrote:
sophisticated wrote:
AspE wrote:
sophisticated wrote:

Some more atheist logic:

Designed:

...

Not designed:

...

Birds are designoid. That is, they have the appearance of being designed, although they are not. Mutation generates variations on a form. Natural selection picks which one is less suited to it's environment based on reproductive success. That successful form is then the basis for new variations. We call it E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N. Can you say that? Evolution? I know you can.


In other words that which you call "nature" is a factory.

So basically a "lights out factory" popped into existence out of nothing and for no reason.

Fascinating.

way to minimize billions of years of change.. woohoo!


Just because you know how something evolves (e.g. muscles) doesn't mean you have an excuse to disbelieve in God.

That "excuse" is irrelevant to me. I learned about the two different creation stories in Genesis two years after becoming a Christian. That told me that there was no conflict between my faith and evolution. For 30+ years I believed in both, and without any conflict. Evolution did not make me disbelieve, and the same is true of other thinking people.

Hence, to trot it out as an argument is a straw man, a misrepresentation and a dismissive simplification of how thinking people think.

sophisticated wrote:
Evolution only strengthens my faith.

As it did mine, for over 3 decades.


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08 Mar 2015, 2:39 am

Here yee here yee Oldavid had arrived time to sound the trumpets and roll out the red carpet for his arrival!


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08 Mar 2015, 3:30 am

I guess I'm rather backward because I think comic strips are for entertainment and don't contain much in the way of science or logic.

Anyhow, who am I to even care what you imagine reason to be.



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08 Mar 2015, 3:41 am

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I guess I'm rather backward because I think comic strips are for entertainment and don't contain much in the way of science or logic.

Anyhow, who am I to even care what you imagine reason to be.
....Gods not real and evolution is teeheehee!


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