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that's the same thing as age structure.... distribution of the ages for the total population in any place.

so no it doesnt.

pops grow eponentially.... slowing down or even stopping takes many generations of deaths to even marginally change. (which is exactly why we're f****d with respect to overpopulation for our planet as well... we may as well go out in a sinful orgy rolling around in our fossil fuels... and is why im not making that case against you... its besides the point)

it's funny.... we learn about this in into bio courses in the US

think it's called G-rate.... try looking that up for countries and you'll see the ones with all the old people HAVE NO JOBS and tons of emmigration

and besides... you are also ignoring that gay couples have kids too.... i think you said that screws the kids up... i think that's a hint to the true nature of your disdain for gays

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Europe

read that.... youll see your small pop of breeders in european countries are due to high emmigration... low immigration... and yes low birth rates...

doesnt say anything about gays.... historically or now


and i am conceding that having more kids strictly on a number basis could solve your problem (but you have to concede that decreasing the rate is insignificant.... think math-wise)

but then youd have to get reffered to the issue of the emmigration DUE TO NO JOBS

if these countries suddenly started having kids... there's no way to support them... which contributes to why they dont have them in the first place

Well it isnt going to say anything about gays, its a government report and it is taboo to mention it in such a fashion.

doesnt have to

it's irrelevant...

plus by your logic there were less gays in the past anyway cause it was less fashionable....... so they had nothing to do with getting this ECONOMIC ball on the roll

If it were relevent, do you think it would be on there anyway.

yes but it would be vague and about civil rights........ which IS what we're talking about here... not homophobes

part of the emmigration from these countries had to do with religious rights.

but there's nothing there about it (gays) cause it's irrelevant... they are a minority pop... that do have chilren and jobs (though yes this is slightly diff than HELPING the birthrate.... but it's still the financial equiv. based on your argument... orphans dont help your retirement)... what does this have to do with your point?

you have no real points.

it's a vicious cycle with no easy answers.... including pinning it on gays

I would quite like to go and live over there actually but unfortunately that's not possible right now. I'm not in the financial position to be able to move and I'm still dependent on my family.

He doesn't seem to like immigration either.

I dont object to immigration per se, but i do when it gets to the rate we have it at. It is at the potentially destabilising level now, there is a limit to what the UK can cope with.

But they're bringing/having kids. I thought that was what you wanted. More and more kids so you get your pension.

ARGHH, this is SUCH a gay topic!! !!

Yeah, this thread is totally gay.

I would like there to be a country left for me to live in as well. You can see the beginnings of what has the potential to become a distaster already over here, cant you?

The future of Britain

I'm not sure what a distaster is but I'm sure there will be a huge disaster yes... Oh well. I'll be moving to the netherlands anyway.

And Ragtime, there's a thread about you on zomg lol

Fifty pages...

And no one has presented any logical reason why gay marriage should be banned. No one has presented any logical reason why gay rights should be limited.

The closest is Ragtime's religious arguments, but in countries where religion does not dictate the law (The United States for example), that argument isn't even constitutional. (I.E. Banning gay marriage because it goes against the Bible violates freedom of religion and the establishment clause - there are even Christian churches that support gay marriage)

Otherwise every argument made against gay people has been easily debunked. 50 pages of all that.