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11 Feb 2017, 10:45 am

You must know many people from many generations of your family.

My father's side is well-documented from the 18th century.

My mother's, though, is pretty mysterious from my great grandparents' generation and beyond. My maternal grandfather died in 1946, and I didn't know his name until recently.



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11 Feb 2017, 11:35 am

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Any relations from the Kinderhook,Albany NY area?We may he distant cousins.lol Andries Hanses Scherp is my relation from that area.
There isn't a blood quantum for one of the Cherokee nations.A direct relative on Dawes roll is all you need to claim tribal recognition.


My earliest relative Jan Teunisen came to this country on a 4 year term of employment as a carpenter in the Manor of Rensselaerswyck in 1641 which I believe is very near or now part of Albany so who knows. Eventually settled and helped found the community of Minisink in Orange County New York. The Dutch part of my family were pretty prominent up until the end of the 19th century, there was family that fought on both sides of the Revolution some ending up in Canada but that didn't last long as just one generation later I guess a 'cousin' became one of the great traitors in Canadian history during the War of 1812. Now that's an American patriot! :P My mom did all this genealogy stuff 15+ years ago and visited all the sites, I love learning history and putting a personal connection on it makes it really fascinating stuff. Any Westbrook's or Decker's in your family?



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11 Feb 2017, 12:08 pm

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Martin Van Buren was from Kinderhook.

I just typed that into Geni and he is my 18th cousin thrice removed. lol Its that easy once you build a good tree.

Van Buren's presidency was especially dangerous, because he tried to infiltrate many other lizard-people into high offices. The republic almost didn't survive.


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11 Feb 2017, 1:13 pm

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It has been researched and I am sure if there was any real evidence it would of been found, Warren's reasoning for believing it was her 'high cheekbones'


Clearly this man is Native American. Probably Cherokee.

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11 Feb 2017, 1:57 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Any relations from the Kinderhook,Albany NY area?We may he distant cousins.lol Andries Hanses Scherp is my relation from that area.
There isn't a blood quantum for one of the Cherokee nations.A direct relative on Dawes roll is all you need to claim tribal recognition.


My earliest relative Jan Teunisen came to this country on a 4 year term of employment as a carpenter in the Manor of Rensselaerswyck in 1641 which I believe is very near or now part of Albany so who knows. Eventually settled and helped found the community of Minisink in Orange County New York. The Dutch part of my family were pretty prominent up until the end of the 19th century, there was family that fought on both sides of the Revolution some ending up in Canada but that didn't last long as just one generation later I guess a 'cousin' became one of the great traitors in Canadian history during the War of 1812. Now that's an American patriot! :P My mom did all this genealogy stuff 15+ years ago and visited all the sites, I love learning history and putting a personal connection on it makes it really fascinating stuff. Any Westbrook's or Decker's in your family?

It does seem to make history come alive,especially of you find the cemeteries and even some of the houses your ancestors lived and buried at.Find a grave is a good site for that.It would be a good project for kids to do in history class.Some of my first ancestors were really nasty to the native people. :( King Phillips war.Then some of the others intermarried the natives further South.
No Westbrook or Decker that I can find.Some names are Freer,Tietsoort,Van Deusen and they married into the English eventually starting with the name Corbin,but they were originally French Huegenots.If you can find any ties to Clement Corbin you've got it made,it will take you right across the pond and all over Europe.He married Dorcas Buckmaster(Buckminster).She was an indentured servant,he was not.A true American marriage that wouldn't have happened in Europe.She would have been considered low born and he had titled family in the old country.


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11 Feb 2017, 2:01 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
You must know many people from many generations of your family.

My father's side is well-documented from the 18th century.

My mother's, though, is pretty mysterious from my great grandparents' generation and beyond. My maternal grandfather died in 1946, and I didn't know his name until recently.

We've been here for six generations,arrived right before the Civil War.Local genealogy is fairly easy,the library's,local historical society's and elderly relative with good memories and old bibles are a good place for info.Most old bibles have been handed down and will have all the birthdays,marriages and deaths diligently recorded.
People ass new info to sites all the time so there's always a chance you might find something new about them.


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11 Feb 2017, 2:13 pm

Darmok wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Martin Van Buren was from Kinderhook.

I just typed that into Geni and he is my 18th cousin thrice removed. lol Its that easy once you build a good tree.

Van Buren's presidency was especially dangerous, because he tried to infiltrate many other lizard-people into high offices. The republic almost didn't survive.

We have achieved infiltration,most of the presidents are related.lol
Strangely Putin has no reptile blood,just a highly intelligent hominid.He has no blood connection to the royals of Russia.Just another poser claiming to be something else,a lizard wannabe.


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11 Feb 2017, 2:16 pm

EzraS wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
It has been researched and I am sure if there was any real evidence it would of been found, Warren's reasoning for believing it was her 'high cheekbones'


Clearly this man is Native American. Probably Cherokee.

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lol I thought this was a hoot when it came out.Some Natives got sort of ticked,but hey,facial reconstruction is what it is and he does resemble Patrick Stewart.
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedric ... nnewic.htm


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11 Feb 2017, 2:26 pm

What's wrong with this picture?

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11 Feb 2017, 2:30 pm

Is that Alec Baldwin?


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11 Feb 2017, 2:34 pm

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Is that Alec Baldwin?

Si! All the Yanquis look alike, so it's an understandable mistake.

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in ... d-of-trump


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11 Feb 2017, 3:41 pm

NurseAngela posted a couple of really good links, at the top of the last page, and here's what I found-out:

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The Obama administration conducted a spate of raids and also pursued a more aggressive deportation policy than any previous president, sending more than 400,000 people back to their birth countries at the height of his deportations in 2012. The public outcry over the lengthy detentions and deportations of women, children and people with minor offenses led Obama in his second term to prioritize convicted criminals for deportation.

I almost always read the comments, and these were particularly interesting:

One Poster: Why hadn't Obama already deported these criminal illegal aliens?
Another poster's response: Hillary needed the votes.

Another poster (not in response to above poster): There's no such thing as an undocumented immigrant. If you don't have documents you are a person in this country illegally. You are not an immigrant. That's why you are being deported. A drug dealer is not an undocumented pharmacist. A car thief is not an undocumented car owner.


Those articles led me to this article:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/usa-muslim-refugees-91-4-on-food-stamps-68-3-on-cash-welfare-they-have-to-go-back/

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Illegal Immigrants Cost US 90 Billion Dollars in Welfare Subsidies! And Yet People Think Trump Is Unfair To Want Them All Out Of The Country?

The following images brought tears to my eyes, cuz it drove-home the numbers, and when my own people are hurting, this KILLS me----and, it also goes-back to what I was saying, before, about being appalled with the increase of foreigners that I've seen when I've had to go apply for assistance, in the past.

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11 Feb 2017, 3:55 pm

Campin_Cat wrote:
NurseAngela posted a couple of really good links, at the top of the last page, and here's what I found-out:

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The Obama administration conducted a spate of raids and also pursued a more aggressive deportation policy than any previous president, sending more than 400,000 people back to their birth countries at the height of his deportations in 2012. The public outcry over the lengthy detentions and deportations of women, children and people with minor offenses led Obama in his second term to prioritize convicted criminals for deportation.

I almost always read the comments, and these were particularly interesting:

One Poster: Why hadn't Obama already deported these criminal illegal aliens?
Another poster's response: Hillary needed the votes.

Another poster (not in response to above poster): There's no such thing as an undocumented immigrant. If you don't have documents you are a person in this country illegally. You are not an immigrant. That's why you are being deported. A drug dealer is not an undocumented pharmacist. A car thief is not an undocumented car owner.


Those articles led me to this article:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/usa-muslim-refugees-91-4-on-food-stamps-68-3-on-cash-welfare-they-have-to-go-back/

Quote:
Illegal Immigrants Cost US 90 Billion Dollars in Welfare Subsidies! And Yet People Think Trump Is Unfair To Want Them All Out Of The Country?

The following images brought tears to my eyes, cuz it drove-home the numbers, and when my own people are hurting, this KILLS me----and, it also goes-back to what I was saying, before, about being appalled with the increase of foreigners that I've seen when I've had to go apply for assistance, in the past.

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Thank you, Miss C. Sometimes I think people think I'm just flapping my gums. Thank you for the extra info too!


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11 Feb 2017, 3:56 pm

This is why I hope Trump pushes his ban.


Report: 72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim countries. http://tiny.iavian.net/f84e


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11 Feb 2017, 4:02 pm

More on Mexican Illegals:

Mexicans Vow to Fight Trump by Jamming U.S. Courts. http://tiny.iavian.net/f7v2

Federal agents conduct sweeping immigration enforcement raids in at least 6 states. http://tiny.iavian.net/f7vj

Reports of Raids Have Immigrants Bracing for Enforcement Surge. http://tiny.iavian.net/f7ve

Hundreds of immigrants arrested in 'routine' U.S. enforcement surge. http://tiny.iavian.net/f83z

Trump vows to bring planned border wall costs "way down". http://tiny.iavian.net/f84r


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11 Feb 2017, 4:09 pm

I want to elaborate on what Miss C said. Trump is saying "AMERICA FIRST!" because we have homeless Americans and Americans on disability and needing benefits and these illegals are taking that away from our own people! We have to think about AMERICANS FIRST! before others get help.


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