11 Aug 2009, 6:39 pm
oppositedirection wrote:
Magnus wrote:
I don't think that Hitler was trying to create aspies/autistics, but much of the traits that he admired are also high functioning aspie traits.
Interestingly, Himmler's concept of the Aryan personality does bare relation to high functioning autism (obsession, great capacity for love, likes structure and regimentation, focused mind). This is may have been because Himmler was high functioning autistic himself. But his selection for the SS was based on physical aspects, two German people of pure Aryan blood. No matter how obsessed someone was with the Nazi worldview, no matter how happy someone was living under it's strict and regimented structure, no matter how focused someone was in their tasks, no great someone's love for Nazism might be, this was never enough to get into the SS. So the Nazis were not trying to produce a super race based upon picking people with certain personality traits, they picked them based upon physical traits and racial background, with the additional belief that Aryans had a certain personality.My personal belief is that they were inbreeding with gifted Jews. But that can not be proven and I won't force it down your throat. But, I'd bet my life they were selecting Jews to mix their genes with the chosen soldiers. There was a breeding camp. I don't know what really happened in these camps but since I had dreams I was in this camp I believe it. That may be very wrong but I still believe it and it really doesn't make a difference whether or not it is true in the end. Could make a good movie though.
11 Aug 2009, 10:21 pm
Magnus wrote:
oppositedirection wrote:
Magnus wrote:
I don't think that Hitler was trying to create aspies/autistics, but much of the traits that he admired are also high functioning aspie traits.
Interestingly, Himmler's concept of the Aryan personality does bare relation to high functioning autism (obsession, great capacity for love, likes structure and regimentation, focused mind). This is may have been because Himmler was high functioning autistic himself. But his selection for the SS was based on physical aspects, two German people of pure Aryan blood. No matter how obsessed someone was with the Nazi worldview, no matter how happy someone was living under it's strict and regimented structure, no matter how focused someone was in their tasks, no great someone's love for Nazism might be, this was never enough to get into the SS. So the Nazis were not trying to produce a super race based upon picking people with certain personality traits, they picked them based upon physical traits and racial background, with the additional belief that Aryans had a certain personality.My personal belief is that they were inbreeding with gifted Jews. But that can not be proven and I won't force it down your throat. But, I'd bet my life they were selecting Jews to mix their genes with the chosen soldiers. There was a breeding camp. I don't know what really happened in these camps but since I had dreams I was in this camp I believe it. That may be very wrong but I still believe it and it really doesn't make a difference whether or not it is true in the end. Could make a good movie though.
I have no idea as to whether Hitler was merely a very sharp politician who levered himself into power over the various stupidities of the German populace which was undoubtedly treated badly by the Versailles treaty and the centuries of Christian propaganda against the Jews by most Christian authorities or that he was just nuts. Probably a heavy dose of both. What is astounding is that the profoundly competent and relatively well educated German nation swallowed this intellectual excrement with voracious appetite and enthusiastically went into insanity in full force. It is a lesson as to how little potency the reasoning mind has over raw emotions. The bulk of Hitler's eugenics was derived from the idiotic arrogant beliefs of American intellectuals of the era that disdained "inferior" human groups such as the American Indians and the blacks but the Germans have a cultural characteristic somewhat Aspie in diving wholeheartedly into half assed assumptions as if they were true. Sometimes this has great potential as German rocketry and military technology far exceeded others of the time. The Me 262 was a two jet fighter that fought in WWII well before anybody else grasped the technology. But, as we saw, that kind of single mindedness is frequently suicidal.
11 Aug 2009, 11:35 pm
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13 Aug 2009, 12:46 pm
oppositedirection wrote:
Magnus wrote:
This time I'm really not being a satirist.
So you're just making all this up? That would explain a lot and suggests you're a complete f**k-up, the holocaust and eugenics being fairly sensitive topics. Not that I particularly care, it probably taking you longer to think up the sh** you write than for me to answer.LOL
No need to get mad about this. I know they are sensitive topics but jeesh, settle down.
It probably would take you much longer to respond to the s**t I think up, but I enjoy thinking them up all the same. I'm gonna stick to talking to the voices in my head cause you guys because they are much more interesting than you are.
13 Aug 2009, 1:10 pm
Magnus wrote:
oppositedirection wrote:
Magnus wrote:
This time I'm really not being a satirist.
So you're just making all this up? That would explain a lot and suggests you're a complete f**k-up, the holocaust and eugenics being fairly sensitive topics. Not that I particularly care, it probably taking you longer to think up the sh** you write than for me to answer.LOL
No need to get mad about this. I know they are sensitive topics but jeesh, settle down.
It probably would take you much longer to respond to the sh** I think up, but I enjoy thinking them up all the same. I'm gonna stick to talking to the voices in my head cause you guys because they are much more interesting than you are.
It is quite a novel reaction for someone to exult in being a sh ithead while fully accepting the definition of the term.
13 Aug 2009, 1:33 pm
Magnus wrote:
oppositedirection wrote:
Magnus wrote:
This time I'm really not being a satirist.
So you're just making all this up? That would explain a lot and suggests you're a complete f**k-up, the holocaust and eugenics being fairly sensitive topics. Not that I particularly care, it probably taking you longer to think up the sh** you write than for me to answer.LOL
No need to get mad about this. I know they are sensitive topics but jeesh, settle down.
It probably would take you much longer to respond to the sh** I think up, but I enjoy thinking them up all the same. I'm gonna stick to talking to the voices in my head cause you guys because they are much more interesting than you are.
Of course. Believing that Hitler was trying to breed a race of super aspies would mean aspies really are superior (or that someone actually gives a *censored* about us), believing in a god means there's an afterlife, believing in aliens means we're not alone, and believing in Bigfoot means there's still mystery to be found in the natural world. Makes so much sense.
13 Aug 2009, 9:09 pm
Sand wrote:
Magnus wrote:
oppositedirection wrote:
Magnus wrote:
This time I'm really not being a satirist.
So you're just making all this up? That would explain a lot and suggests you're a complete f**k-up, the holocaust and eugenics being fairly sensitive topics. Not that I particularly care, it probably taking you longer to think up the sh** you write than for me to answer.LOL
No need to get mad about this. I know they are sensitive topics but jeesh, settle down.
It probably would take you much longer to respond to the sh** I think up, but I enjoy thinking them up all the same. I'm gonna stick to talking to the voices in my head cause you guys because they are much more interesting than you are.
It is quite a novel reaction for someone to exult in being a sh ithead while fully accepting the definition of the term.
I am a s**t head because I have evolved from being an as*hole.
13 Aug 2009, 9:11 pm
Henriksson wrote:
Magnus wrote:
oppositedirection wrote:
Magnus wrote:
This time I'm really not being a satirist.
So you're just making all this up? That would explain a lot and suggests you're a complete f**k-up, the holocaust and eugenics being fairly sensitive topics. Not that I particularly care, it probably taking you longer to think up the sh** you write than for me to answer.LOL
No need to get mad about this. I know they are sensitive topics but jeesh, settle down.
It probably would take you much longer to respond to the sh** I think up, but I enjoy thinking them up all the same. I'm gonna stick to talking to the voices in my head cause you guys because they are much more interesting than you are.
Of course. Believing that Hitler was trying to breed a race of super aspies would mean aspies really are superior (or that someone actually gives a *censored* about us), believing in a god means there's an afterlife, believing in aliens means we're not alone, and believing in Bigfoot means there's still mystery to be found in the natural world. Makes so much sense.
It doesn't mean aspies are superior. We are more like the monsters from unnatural selection.
13 Aug 2009, 9:30 pm
Magnus wrote:
Henriksson wrote:
Magnus wrote:
oppositedirection wrote:
Magnus wrote:
This time I'm really not being a satirist.
So you're just making all this up? That would explain a lot and suggests you're a complete f**k-up, the holocaust and eugenics being fairly sensitive topics. Not that I particularly care, it probably taking you longer to think up the sh** you write than for me to answer.LOL
No need to get mad about this. I know they are sensitive topics but jeesh, settle down.
It probably would take you much longer to respond to the sh** I think up, but I enjoy thinking them up all the same. I'm gonna stick to talking to the voices in my head cause you guys because they are much more interesting than you are.
Of course. Believing that Hitler was trying to breed a race of super aspies would mean aspies really are superior (or that someone actually gives a *censored* about us), believing in a god means there's an afterlife, believing in aliens means we're not alone, and believing in Bigfoot means there's still mystery to be found in the natural world. Makes so much sense.
It doesn't mean aspies are superior. We are more like the monsters from unnatural selection.
Assuming this site displays a spectrum of what might be termed aspie character and mental quality the range seems extremely large and to characterize them in such a limited way is to fall into the racist error of all black people are lazy and stupid, all Irish are drunk and violent, all Arabs are terrorists, all Americans are fat, stupid, lazy and interested only in money, etc. We are individuals with a few slightly different motivations but we cannot, insofar as I have seen, be easily classified as a unified group. It seems more that disunity is one of our drives.
A brain without an as*hole is in severe physiological trouble. Problems begin with a confusion of he two functions.
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15 Aug 2009, 10:48 pm
re the previous post - yeah, you could be. Joining the SS meant that you had to supply a geneology dating back to the 18th Century, and it had to be 'clean'.
I don't think there's that many uncircumcised Jews out there (well, male ones, that is), but ignorance is bris...
I'll have to moil that over for a while..
15 Aug 2009, 11:09 pm
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