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13 Feb 2007, 11:30 pm

I'm from America. Used to live in Maryland near DC. I didn't know about that though. I know they tried to prevent it in the school systems. The Bush administration wanted to teach abstinence instead of safe sex. Which is clearly a doing of the church.



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14 Feb 2007, 12:56 am

The condom ban got shot down fast, so it didn't make much airtime, never widely got noticed in the mainstream.



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14 Feb 2007, 12:59 am

You should hear the NWO answer to over-population, basically their idea is to murder about 75% of the world's population in a halucaust. There are concentration camps in America, they were used on Japanese Americans during WW2.... All major UN nations have death camps ready to go.... PM me and I can discuss this in better detail, but it'd take me a while to explain it all though.



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15 Feb 2007, 2:53 am

1) Snake, do you have any links to websites where you're getting this stuff? Back when I posted as McJeff I tried to figure out where all this New World Order stuff was coming from.

2) The topic creater's two posts are copied word for word from a comic on a Christian White Supremist website called King Identity.

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3) Racism? If you want to talk about a word that has completely lost any semblance of meaning it once had, it's racism/racist. I got banned for being "racist" against Muslims. Even though what I suggested was that Islam be insulted every time a muslim preaches womens inferiority or the extermination of homosexuals or another race, which has nothing to do with race and is purely reactionary rather than aggressive.



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15 Feb 2007, 2:56 am

Good to see you back, McJeff. Or, whatever you prefer to now be called.



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15 Feb 2007, 4:05 am

To tackle racism wo must understand why racism excists. Let me point you in the right direction Darwinian Pyschology

Racism and the Theory Of



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15 Feb 2007, 1:58 pm

Tha_Cat wrote:
1) Snake, do you have any links to websites where you're getting this stuff? Back when I posted as McJeff I tried to figure out where all this New World Order stuff was coming from.

2) The topic creater's two posts are copied word for word from a comic on a Christian White Supremist website called King Identity.

WARNING: OFFENSIVE
http://www.kingidentity.com/comic.gif

3) Racism? If you want to talk about a word that has completely lost any semblance of meaning it once had, it's racism/racist. I got banned for being "racist" against Muslims. Even though what I suggested was that Islam be insulted every time a muslim preaches womens inferiority or the extermination of homosexuals or another race, which has nothing to do with race and is purely reactionary rather than aggressive.


If I misunderstood something you said about islam to being racist against arabs then I apologize. I'm against all religions (even extreme atheism), but I don't claim that some religions are more acceptible than others. Some good has come from all religions. Islam is no different than Christianity in that the initial message behind both religions were positive messages, however, extremists have taken those messages and warped them into hate and bigotry.

As for the NWO, the evidence is all around us. Even mathematically. Seven liberties, seven seas, seven spikes on the crown of the statue of liberty, seven continents, seven "deadly sins" (seven is a major masonic number), the pyramid with the eye on the back of the dollar bill, I mean we're surrounded with masonic symbologies, most of which came from various theologies throughout time. I learned of the NWO long before Bush was in office, just look at the human rights abuses that UN blue helmets are committing around the world. I mean all the pieces are falling into place like clockwork, it really should be obvious. Everything from setting up a Bank of America in China down to electing a former NAZI officer as the new pope. String theories tie it all together.



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15 Feb 2007, 1:59 pm

Take a good long hard look at human genetics, then tell me if the NWO sounds so far fetched. We are a tribal, dominance-based species here.



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15 Feb 2007, 2:04 pm

Well generally we aspies are less dominance-based and tribalist than most NTs are. But this is a NT man's world though.



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15 Feb 2007, 2:12 pm

I hate honkey-devil motherf***ers...I'm white, but I listen to marvin gaye.



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15 Feb 2007, 2:15 pm

Yeah charles, your sooooooo open minded and progressive and new wave :roll:
Who ever thought the answer is in pampering monorities and demonizing historically dominant groups because of what their ANCESTORS did?



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15 Feb 2007, 2:29 pm

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I hate honkey-devil motherf***ers...I'm white, but I listen to marvin gaye.


I'm white too, my best friend is black. I listen to some rap, Akon, NAS, Snoop, Tupac, I also like James Brown, and I like Bob Marley. I just don't think the answer is so cut and dry as pampering historical victim groups and demonizing historical dominant groups. Your rhetoric has no semblance of equality, as you prefer to think it does, instead it's just switching the tides.
Not kissing someone's ass because of their minority status doesn't mean your racist. You can respect someone's culture without sucking their dick. You sound like one of these pc freaks that would flip out if a white cop arrested a black murderer, and go on calling the cop a racist, even though the guy isn't being arrested because he's black, he's being arrested because he murdered someone. But in your mind the cop is racist JUST because he arrested a man who just so happened to be black, right?



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15 Feb 2007, 8:10 pm

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ah ha. i think all racism is wrong. i understand stereotypes are somewhat unavoidable (it is human nature to stereotype and a survival instinct) but i also think there's a difference between stereotype and just out and out hatred racism. expecting a black guy to like rap or a white guy to like cheese* is normal.




*name that reference!


How does stereotyping aid survival? Do you mean generalising from experience in order to learn to avoid certain like nausea-inducing plants or white hot metal? Stereotyping seems to use generalisations based more on hearsay, though presumably trusting the warnings of others about plants, hot metal or predators may once have been a useful asset since distorted. Also the characterisation of an entire ethnic group could be based on experience of one or possibly a few unpleasant individuals and generalising from this experience, rather than simply hearsay. Or an unbalanced media presentation of only some of the pertinent facts (again similar to hearsay, but with an element of "witnessing" something visually). Anyway, basically I agree with you concerning your opposition to racial hatred.


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15 Feb 2007, 8:33 pm

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Is there any reliable research available that proves that there really is no biological difference between the races except colour? Perhaps it doesnt belong to the discussion exacly but ive found research that says that women are less intelligent then men. Do we think there are any other differences between men and women (besides the obvious). Im not saying that I personally belive that there are differences. But I guess maybe somebody feels like finding out where I live and beheading me anyway :). Im just pointing out that opinions are opinions after all. "kill all racists" doesn't seem very constructive, democratic, or pluralistic. Who else are we to disrespect and hate becus they have different opinions then us?


What statistics and tests were used to justify the claim? I realise you did not say you agree with the statement about women. I was just curious. How large a sample did they use? What are their criteria for intelligence? Personally I suspect that on average more of my own gender (males) are of lower intelligence (inverse sexism, I know, but we all have our prejudices. Besides, I am partially being deliberately provocative). The education system has frequently in the past been slanted in our favour, ie those times when there were no or few female students, higher education and the medical or legal professions were discouraged, illegal or inconceivable, teachers and other employees obliged to abandon jobs after matrimony. Nowadays university retention rates for women seem higher (anecdotal. There is insufficient data to compute There is insufficient data to compute. Delete, delete delete. EXTERMINATE, exterminate exterminate).

And yes, killing people for their views, however repugnant, is wrong, and a practice of totalitarian regimes, Cybermen and Daleks. Actually I think the reasons of the latter two may differ slightly.

Research could potentially be used to argue any case, including the case that I am the Master and you WILL obey me.

Sorry, I do not know what came over me. Basically I think that racism and sexism are unjustified and irrational assumptions based on insufficient evidence and a tendency to make assumptions and generalisations, but that those who hold such irrational and frequently hate-permeated views should not really be killed, just exiled. (Sorry again. The threat of deportation may have contained humour, though obviously not for those concerned).


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15 Feb 2007, 8:41 pm

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SOOOOOOOOO... you resent the fact that we hate you "just" because you hate about 3/4 of the worlds population just because they arent white-skinned? Theres logic in that is there?


Gargoyletae is not a racist. It was the third person plural (they, them) that was used in reference to racists by her/him, and your use of the second person was not justified by the evidence from the post.


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15 Feb 2007, 8:51 pm

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Well, political correctness was a severely messed up attempt to restore antiquity to this nation's minorities, but it has failed miserably. Instead it has merely made it acceptible for the ones our forefathers hurt in the past to adopt a hyprocritical, equally hateful attitude. This goes for gender, race, sexual orientation, and extreme christian republicans even us it to their advantage even though historically they were the ones DOING most of the oppression (and still are, someone please ask me to explain this so I can get it out).

Rush said it best in the song sub-divisions:
Growing up it all seems so one-sided
Opinions all provided
The future pre-decided
Detached and subdivided
In the mass production zone
Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone


Are you sure that you do not mean "equity" or "dignity" rather than "antiquity"? What have ancient times, thoroughly interesting though they were and remain, to do with giving basic rights to people regardless of ancestry? Also slavery has been used by a range of people in history, though I grant you that focussing on instances in one context may be unhelpful. Slavery certainly still persists, though not just in the African context; the treatment of many women migrating from eastern Europe entrapped into enforced prostitution amounts to slavery.


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