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30 Mar 2010, 10:38 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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I was home schooled until the 9th grade and I hadn't heard of "conservapedia" until this thread.


Except for a couple months of experience in government high school, I've been homeschooled k-12+, and I'd only heard of conservapedia from WP also.


1) Conservapedia isn't an ancient project - it was only founded in 2006.
2) Whatever point random homeschooled students are trying to make by demonstating their ignorance of conservapedia is beyond me. Except, perhaps, that homeschooled forum participants misread statements like "home 'schooled' get their information from this manure factory" to mean all people who ever have been homeschooled know about this encyclopedia. It was rather clear from the context that I was talking about religiously conservative homeschoolers, but I guess contextual understanding is something homeschool curriculums need work on.



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30 Mar 2010, 2:11 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
It was rather clear from the context that I was talking about religiously conservative homeschoolers, but I guess contextual understanding is something homeschool curriculums need work on.


Or maybe you should have been more clear in specifying the context.

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30 Mar 2010, 2:12 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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It was rather clear from the context that I was talking about religiously conservative homeschoolers, but I guess contextual understanding is something homeschool curriculums need work on.


Or maybe you should have been more clear in specifying the context.

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It would be absurd to think progressive homeschoolers would present Conservapedia as a legitimate resource to their children. Hence I considered it rather redudant to mention that fact.



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30 Mar 2010, 2:16 pm

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It would be absurd to think progressive homeschoolers would present Conservapedia as a legitimate resource to their children. Hence I considered it rather redudant to mention that fact.


What a good homes schooler does is get the best sources for their children. That might include Encyclopedia Britannica but it sure does not include Conservapedia. One uses sources with the best academic credentials as a rule.

I have been there and done that. I home schooled my kids, not for any religious reason but because the creatures from the teacher's union are an incompetent lot.

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30 Mar 2010, 3:17 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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I was home schooled until the 9th grade and I hadn't heard of "conservapedia" until this thread.


Except for a couple months of experience in government high school, I've been homeschooled k-12+, and I'd only heard of conservapedia from WP also.


1) Conservapedia isn't an ancient project - it was only founded in 2006.
2) Whatever point random homeschooled students are trying to make by demonstating their ignorance of conservapedia is beyond me. Except, perhaps, that homeschooled forum participants misread statements like "home 'schooled' get their information from this manure factory" to mean all people who ever have been homeschooled know about this encyclopedia. It was rather clear from the context that I was talking about religiously conservative homeschoolers, but I guess contextual understanding is something homeschool curriculums need work on.


Okay Mr Ignorant, so far 2 out of 2 homeschoolers on WP have said that they have not heard of it to use it when they were performing homeschooling. That is not a large statistical sample, but so far it is still in 100% disagreement with your preconceived notions. Also at least one of these homeschoolers is "religiously conservative".



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30 Mar 2010, 3:22 pm

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I have been there and done that. I home schooled my kids, not for any religious reason but because the creatures from the teacher's union are an incompetent lot.

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Jacklyn and I intend to homeschool our children also. She was public schooled for all her life and hates the crappy system. Teachers are incompetent, children are one step removed from being as evil as those shown torturing Judas on the movie Passion Of The Christ, and the subjects are presented in such a boring manner with no lack of needless and mindless repetition as to drive education as far from government property as possible.



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30 Mar 2010, 8:06 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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I was home schooled until the 9th grade and I hadn't heard of "conservapedia" until this thread.


Except for a couple months of experience in government high school, I've been homeschooled k-12+, and I'd only heard of conservapedia from WP also.


1) Conservapedia isn't an ancient project - it was only founded in 2006.
2) Whatever point random homeschooled students are trying to make by demonstating their ignorance of conservapedia is beyond me. Except, perhaps, that homeschooled forum participants misread statements like "home 'schooled' get their information from this manure factory" to mean all people who ever have been homeschooled know about this encyclopedia. It was rather clear from the context that I was talking about religiously conservative homeschoolers, but I guess contextual understanding is something homeschool curriculums need work on.


Okay Mr Ignorant, so far 2 out of 2 homeschoolers on WP have said that they have not heard of it to use it when they were performing homeschooling. That is not a large statistical sample, but so far it is still in 100% disagreement with your preconceived notions. Also at least one of these homeschoolers is "religiously conservative".


I never maintained that religiously conservative homeschooled students were capable of traveling at least two years into the future to get information from an encyclopedia of the future.

The fact that you've never heard of something founded in 2006 (if your age is 24, you've probably been "out of" home-school for at least a few years). The other person (whose age I don't know) was also probably completely homeschooled by the time "Conservapedia" was founded.

I have never claimed that homeschoolers since the beginning of time have used a resource only four years old. Once again, contextual understanding.



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30 Mar 2010, 11:08 pm

If you are going to make an argument about something you find disgusting, such as stoicism and home education or whatever, please actually elucidate rather than force people to guess based on the fervid words you've written and then claiming they can't understand context because you lack the ability to express anything other than emotions.



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30 Mar 2010, 11:10 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you are going to make an argument about something you find disgusting, such as stoicism and home education or whatever, please actually elucidate rather than force people to guess based on the fervid words you've written and then claiming they can't understand context because you lack the ability to express anything other than emotions.


If people fail to take chronology into account, that is by no means my problem.



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30 Mar 2010, 11:20 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you are going to make an argument about something you find disgusting, such as stoicism and home education or whatever, please actually elucidate rather than force people to guess based on the fervid words you've written and then claiming they can't understand context because you lack the ability to express anything other than emotions.


If people fail to take chronology into account, that is by no means my problem.


Everything is always S.E.P.



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30 Mar 2010, 11:48 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Master_Pedant wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
If you are going to make an argument about something you find disgusting, such as stoicism and home education or whatever, please actually elucidate rather than force people to guess based on the fervid words you've written and then claiming they can't understand context because you lack the ability to express anything other than emotions.


If people fail to take chronology into account, that is by no means my problem.


Everything is always S.E.P.


Not always or even most of the time, but it is in this particular instance.



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20 Apr 2010, 12:23 pm

Master_Pedant wrote:
http://www.conservapedia.com/George_Orwell#cite_note-0

... that home "schooled" children get their information from that manure factory.


Only some home schooled children are so exposed. Some are not. Mine were not. I used only first rate reference and source material when I home schooled my kids.

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21 Apr 2010, 10:11 pm

or consider this link,

http://www.conservapedia.com/Gender_differences

"Denial of gender differences is part of the justification for the liberal position on issues including: ... Education - For men and women to ever be educated differently or separately would be considered discriminatory"

this particular section sounds like revisiting the 19th century.



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21 Apr 2010, 10:19 pm

petitesouris wrote:
or consider this link,

http://www.conservapedia.com/Gender_differences

"Denial of gender differences is part of the justification for the liberal position on issues including: ... Education - For men and women to ever be educated differently or separately would be considered discriminatory"

this particular section sounds like revisiting the 19th century.


Hmm, which would you consider to be more preferable, the 19th century AD in Britain or the 1st century BC in Rome?



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21 Apr 2010, 10:27 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
petitesouris wrote:
or consider this link,

http://www.conservapedia.com/Gender_differences

"Denial of gender differences is part of the justification for the liberal position on issues including: ... Education - For men and women to ever be educated differently or separately would be considered discriminatory"

this particular section sounds like revisiting the 19th century.


Hmm, which would you consider to be more preferable, the 19th century AD in Britain or the 1st century BC in Rome?


obviously the 19th century is better than the 1st century, but think about what it says. their use of the phrase "separating and educating differently" is very elusive.



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22 Apr 2010, 3:40 pm

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A good friend of mine is a fundamentalist who was home schooled. He's a very bright guy, and it saddens me to see his mind filled with such utter nonsense.


Yeah, that's usually the case. I noticed they tend to be very christian and right wing, the home schooled ones.