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29 Mar 2006, 4:11 am

Stop funding china that puts people in jail for speaking freely and has internet sensorship.

Anyone buying Chinese made products and not demanding retailers seek products made by free countries who at least have a free speech policy is not pro human rights.



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29 Mar 2006, 6:04 am

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Stop funding china that puts people in jail for speaking freely and has internet sensorship.

Anyone buying Chinese made products and not demanding retailers seek products made by free countries who at least have a free speech policy is not pro human rights.


Western capatilist companies and their customers are the one's funding China. Greed is good in capatilist countries and that is exactly why youll bring about your own downfall. Through greed and consumer apathy. HAhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahah. HA.



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29 Mar 2006, 7:54 am

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I hate democracy. It is a total con. The only thing that matters is fairness. Giving power to the masses isn't fairness.

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The only way for Communism to succeed is through force. That is the only thing that scares people properly. If you give people the choice to be corrupt and have plenty at the expense of environment, families, communities, education, culture and all that is good then most people, being scum, will choose wrongly.

That is why it is vital that Communists don't be pushovers. We need guns and armies. We need to shoot businessmen who won't reform, put in camps people who won't live morally atheistic lives.

Typical Stalinist.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but most of the communists on this forum (myself included) are DEMOCRATIC communists. It sounds like you, on the other hand, are aspiring to be like the guy in your pic.

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Should be more like 'Totalitarians Unite', no?

Yes, thats what it sounds like.

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Thats why democracy is superior. Communist are brain washed monkey's

You sound like you think its a competition. Theres no reason why communism and democracy cant coexist (example - http://s12.invisionfree.com/the_project)

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Race and gender is what made America what it once was.

What, a symbol of slavery?

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Jews were behind 9/11 not Osama

The CIA and the White House were behind 9/11, althogh Osama may have been involved

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Do you hate the hard workers who pay taxes to fund social service programs for the poor, to say snorting like a pig?

If you agree with those social service programs and paying taxes to fund them then you lean towards communism yourself, althogh u mite not realise it.

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Do I know what freedom is? Do the chineese that are jailed for speaking freely know what freedom is, I say no they do not, so that is why democracy is superior and what is longed for.

Democracy and equality tie as the 2 most important things in existance. And you happen to not know what communism is. While China is Communist, that dosent meen to say its policies define communism.

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I didnt learn my facist ways here. I post on white pride/nationalism forums too. That is where I learned this stuff. And reading things on my own. Who is the Sean you talk about?

Your alter ego.

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Dear oh dear some truly illogical ignorant viewpoints being expressed here

Ill say ¬_¬


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29 Mar 2006, 9:04 am

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29 Mar 2006, 12:27 pm

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Faggotdom doesnt add to society AT ALL.

Society exists to benefit people. If people arent free to act as they want, particularly when it dosent effect anyone who isnt involved, theres no point in having a society at all.

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The children of these unions have no culture or heritage to call their own and are usually bullied in school along with the fa***ts because even children know what is natural and what is un natural from birth.

So, your saying its RIGHT that halfcast kids get bullied to the point, in some cases, that they become suicidal?

PRAY I never meet you.

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Please explain how democracy is "vital" in free societies.

While a benevolent dictatorship is entirely possible in the short term, and we even have examples of such (eg Lenin, possibly King Arthur if he existed and was as good as the legends make him out to be), Human mortality and corruptability means any dictatorship is pre-ordained to become oppressive and/or corrupt eventually, if not torn down and replaced with democracy before that happens. Nobody is immune to the temptations of absolute power (Oliver Cromwell is a good example of a "liberator" who set up his own dictatorship and eventually began to rule through an iron fist). And even if the original dictator manages to resist those temptations, someone will eventually come along who either never had good intentions to begin with or succumbs to the temptation (eg Stalin, MANY of the monarchs who, if he existed, followed King Arthur).

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Oh so in yall mind set only whites can be racists.

No, racism in other races is no better. See "Say NO to racism!" thread.

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While race is, by far, the No. 1 factor cited as the reason for hate crimes, blacks are slightly less likely to be victims and far more likely to be perpetrators, the statistics show.

What I want to know is why the records even state the race of either party. Stuff like thats BOUND to be misinterpreted by people like you.

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The system needs to be reformed, but I don't expect anything good under this fascist government.

Seconded

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I'm thinking of a book here.... Writen by an englishman by the name of Eric Blair ( he wrote under the pen name of George Orwell) uuuummmm......... Animal Farm!! !! that's it!! ! Quite a lesson that book teaches us!!

Yes, thats EXACTLY why any revolutionary goverment needs to be democratic from the outset, and why it needs to have an almost UNCHANGEABLE constitution (no adding little clauses like "but some are more equal than others").

Incidentally Id say another book by the same guy (1984) was more relevant to the current world situation.

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Look at the Hitler poster I am sure you have on your wall

I have to say, I woodnt be suprised...


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29 Mar 2006, 12:30 pm

The problem with communism is that there is no incentive on production, what is the possible idealistic solution about this?


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29 Mar 2006, 12:34 pm

Im fairly sure thats been covered in Project Legacy (the link in one of my previous posts in this topic) but I cant think of what the solution was rite now.


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29 Mar 2006, 4:12 pm

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It was in public school I became racially aware and learned that Old Abe was right. Two races can not peacefully exist under the same government.


Then How did rome Last so Long???



Because they had very very strict rules as to who could be come what in Roman society. Once they were thrown out Rome fell.


Only Partialy correct (typical of white supremacist propaganda, full of HALF truths) Roman society fell when citizenship was given away and no longer had to be earned. It was'nt long before Rome no longer cared about defending it's own borders. (Sounds like modern times) But by that time, Roman society had been multi-ethnic for over 700 years. Race had nothing to do with it. It was as Michael Savage likes to say "Borders, Language and Culture"


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29 Mar 2006, 4:24 pm

Okay you communist. I thought we the US has gotten rid of you in the Cold War. How can you believe in all those lies? How can you actually believe all those things of hate that they give you? Tell me how can you live with your self?


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29 Mar 2006, 4:34 pm

The problem with any form of government is that it rarely works the way it should. Communism is a great example of this. In it's purest form it would be good for people, the flaw of it is the flaw that all governments share, the people. There will always be people who take advantage of the system, people who break the law and people who use the systems in place to their own benefit. Look at the communist countries in the world today, I can't think of any that have it together and working well for the people the way they are supposed to be. (China isn't exactly what anyone would call a great place to call home, human rights violations alone are enough to keep it in the catagory of "hell no") I don't think the american ideal of democracy is good either because too many people fall through the cracks, but given the choice I would have to take democracy over communism. *My personal leanings are more of what is considered socialist.


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29 Mar 2006, 4:49 pm

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I'm an Aspie and I'm a Communist and I'm proud to be both. I hate democracy. It is a total con. The only thing that matters is fairness. Giving power to the masses isn't fairness.


That's exactly what Communism is. Lemme guess, you just sorta skimmed through the Communist Manifesto and now you think you're a Marxist. Sigh, here we go...

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The only way for Communism to succeed is through force. That is the only thing that scares people properly. If you give people the choice to be corrupt and have plenty at the expense of environment, families, communities, education, culture and all that is good then most people, being scum, will choose wrongly.


On the other hand, our great Socialist leaders won't be corrupt at all, just like Stalin, Kruschev, Mao, and Pol Pot weren't corrupt. :roll:

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Aspies who stand with me, who want to be Communists or are Communists too, reply and we can begin to organise action...We will make you face the depravity of your lives. We will use guns and blood will be shed but it will be an honourable fight.


That's kinda creepy, dude. Considering recent events, you might wanna cut back on that. Wait a minute, something here sounds awfully familiar...

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We will make you face the depravity of your lives. We will use guns and blood will be shed but it will be an honourable fight.


Oh yeah, I loved that movie!

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The problem with communism is that there is no incentive on production, what is the possible idealistic solution about this?


Yeah there is, it's a Tokarev pointed at the back of your head.



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Okay you communist. I thought we the US has gotten rid of you in the Cold War. How can you believe in all those lies? How can you actually believe all those things of hate that they give you? Tell me how can you live with your self?


"Your Commie has no regard for human life. Not even his own." -General Ripper, Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove



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29 Mar 2006, 4:56 pm

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TigerFire wrote:
Okay you communist. I thought we the US has gotten rid of you in the Cold War. How can you believe in all those lies? How can you actually believe all those things of hate that they give you? Tell me how can you live with your self?


"Your Commie has no regard for human life. Not even his own." -General Ripper, Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove


I never heard that quote before but thanks for sharing. Have you ever thought of turning your 6's into 9's?


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29 Mar 2006, 5:07 pm

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Okay you communist. I thought we the US has gotten rid of you in the Cold War. How can you believe in all those lies? How can you actually believe all those things of hate that they give you? Tell me how can you live with your self?


"Your Commie has no regard for human life. Not even his own." -General Ripper, Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove


I never heard that quote before but thanks for sharing. Have you ever thought of turning your 6's into 9's?


I uh, have to say the thought never crossed my mind. Por qué?



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29 Mar 2006, 5:19 pm

I'm a socialist/communist, part of an online socialist group too. I campaign for Fair Trade and Trade Justice too. Not much else to say really.

Democracy is total gnorance and an illusion also, the concept has ony ever existed in ancient Greece and that was only fo men, today's 'versions' are anything but; constantly laws are being put in place that undermine majority wishes, or should I say well being, as often the majority doesn't know what's good for itself anyway.

As for these 'communism doesn't look after the little guy' comments, perhaps the pro-commie people are actually thinking of socialism as opposed to communism? There are differences. Just a thought...

Just my 2c.



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29 Mar 2006, 5:23 pm

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As for these 'communism doesn't look after the little guy' comments, perhaps the pro-commie people are actually thinking of socialism as opposed to communism? There are differences. Just a thought...


One of Communism's biggest flaws is that you have to go through Socialism to get there.