Nation Once Again Comes Under Sway Of Pink-Faced Half-Wit
Racial inequality does not necessitate hatred, though. I'm not insinuating you've done this, but there seems to be a tendency to equate racism with hatred. Post-Civil Rights Movement, racism among whites is far more likely to take the form of socioeconomic favoritism or a condescending attitude. It doesn't necessarily mean there's any actual malice involved at all-- it's a much more unconscious thing than that. You can't tell me that 100% of the Tea Partiers who hold rallies with signs depicting Obama as a witch doctor with a bone through his nose are protesting his administration based solely on his policies.
I'm not claiming that you're wrong about other races exhibiting some degree of dislike toward whites. But can we at least agree, like Orwell suggested, that to some degree racism is still, even in this day and age, a two-way street?
There are European Jews, though. And actually, it still doesn't change the overall conclusion that whites are in power, unless you're one of those people who believes our government is secretly being controlled by Zionist reptilians.
I posted on the previous page saying that since you are clearly fine with discussing WASP power, I trusted I could also mention non-WASP power without having to answer jests about “reptilians”. I wasn’t really very confident about that, but I did not expect you, like one of Pavlov’s dogs, to go and use that same word so soon in the very same thread. Don’t you see that that reflects badly on you and not on me?
By way of providing some evidence that the assertion that “WASPs are in control” is at least a simplistic exaggeration, here is a long quote from “Fatal Embrace” (1993) by Benjamin Ginsberg, who is Jewish and a Professor of Political Science at John Hopkins University.
Jews played a central role in American finance during the 1980s, and they were among the chief beneficiaries of that decade's corporate mergers and reorganizations. Today, though barely 2% of the nation’s population is Jewish, close to half its billionaires are Jews. The chief executive officers of the three major television networks and the four largest film studios are Jews, as are the owners of the nation’s largest newspaper chain and most influential single newspaper, the New York Times. In the late 1960s, Jews already constituted 20% of the faculty of elite universities and 40% of the professors of elite law schools; today, these percentages doubtless are higher.
The role and influence of Jews in American politics is equally marked. Jews are elected to public office in disproportionate numbers. In 1993, ten members of the United States Senate and thirty-two members of the House of Representatives were Jewish, three to four times their percentage of the general population. Jews are even more prominent in political organizations and in finance. One
recent study found that in twenty-seven of thirty-six campaigns for the United States Senate, one or both candidates relied upon a Jewish campaign chairman or finance director. In the realm of lobbying and litigation, Jews organized what was for many years one of Washington’s most successful political action committees, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), and they play leadership roles in such important public interest groups as the American Civil
Liberties Union (ACLU) and Common Cause. Several Jews also played very important roles in the 1992 Democratic presidential campaign. After the Democrats' victory, President Clinton appointed a
number of Jews to prominent positions in his administration.
Their role in American economic, social, and political institutions has enabled Jews to wield considerable influence in the nation's public life. The most obvious indicator of this influence is the $3 billion in direct military and economic aid provided to Israel by the United States each year and, for that matter, the like amount given to Egypt since it agreed to maintain peaceful relations with Israel. That fully three-fourths of America's foreign aid budget is devoted to Israel's security interests is a tribute in considerable measure to the lobbying prowess of AIPAC and the importance of the Jewish community in American politics.
At least until recently, another mark of Jewish influence was the virtual disappearance of anti-Semitic rhetoric from mainstream public discourse in the United States. As a general rule, what can and cannot be said in public reflects the distribution of political power in society; as Jews gained political power, politicians who indulged in anti-Semitic tactics were labeled extremists and exiled to the margins of American politics. Similarly, religious symbols and forms of expression that Jews find threatening have been almost completely eliminated from schools and other public institutions. Suits brought by the ACLU, an organization whose leadership and membership are predominantly Jewish, secured federal court decisions banning officially sanctioned prayers in the public schools and creches and other religious displays in parks and public buildings.
American Jews secured their position of power quite recently ...
I could go on, but I don’t really expect this to register on your radar screen. I find radical leftists often seem to have a better grasp of these issues than self-described moderates. In your case, you just seem to be a person of quite small political horizons, a person for whom political analysis rarely stretches beyond laughing at Tea Party types for not studying historical income tax patterns closely enough.
OK, Jews do have disproportionate influence in government. Is that news? And it still doesn't change the fact that whites are still overall in control. I certainly don't expect a Jewish president anytime soon. Jews have been one of the minority ethnic groups lucky enough to more or less fully integrate into American society, and they face almost no discrimination now.
I was dismissive of your Jewish comments because more often than not people who start bringing that up then immediately go into some fanciful conspiracy or other.
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Well, at least you acknowledge that. WIll you also agree that it still exists to some extent? Or that the effects of it are still felt?
It does still exist, but it seems to me the hatred aspect of racism exists more in the descendants of those who were former victims of racial hatred from white guys and it exists in its preferential treatment form in the descendants of those who were the victimizers. However, when speaking to immigrants from Latin America, such as from Mexico and Puerto Rico and El Salvador, they also have a form of racism which is neither hatred nor preferential, it is more like a constant dwelling upon races as if they were teams playing some form of sports.
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I was dismissive of your Jewish comments because more often than not people who start bringing that up then immediately go into some fanciful conspiracy or other.
I would vote for a Jewish president, so long as they are morally conservative and are not against the existence of Israel. If the candidates in the 2012 election year are crap, perhaps I'll write in a vote for my wife.
Well, at least you acknowledge that. WIll you also agree that it still exists to some extent? Or that the effects of it are still felt?
It does still exist, but it seems to me the hatred aspect of racism exists more in the descendants of those who were former victims of racial hatred from white guys and it exists in its preferential treatment form in the descendants of those who were the victimizers. However, when speaking to immigrants from Latin America, such as from Mexico and Puerto Rico and El Salvador, they also have a form of racism which is neither hatred nor preferential, it is more like a constant dwelling upon races as if they were teams playing some form of sports.
It's always easier to see when the deck is stacked against you, or your opponent had a lucky hand, than it is to see your own privilege. It's pretty well-established that people want to attribute all their successes to their own hard work or inherent merit, while attributing their failures to bad luck or malice from someone else. Similarly, people will tend to attribute someone else's misfortune to that person's failings rather than circumstance.
Basically, I question whether your perceptions accurately reflect external reality.
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It doesn't seem to me that there is alot of 'new blood,' coming into the ranks of the Wasps who supposedly control everything. The white quota seems to be mostly made up of aged whites who cling desperately to their posts, and when they are phased out, they are replaced by a minority hire.
How many younger whites are coming in to replace the older generation of whites in leadership positions in the country? The future is grim.
In a way, it may be kind of a good thing if some of the younger whites 'go without' for a change, and then get properly riled up and then correctly oriented as they see their 'new neighbors,' coming in and getting the choice jobs and plum government perks.
The problem is still that most older white people still have it too good........... They have too much at stake financially in the current national system. Also, people over age 45 or so have had ample time to participate in white-flight and amply prepare themselves for 2042. The younger whites have been forced to stay mixed in for the most part, and actually spend their formative years in diversity.
I would almost hope though that even if the younger whites suffer materially from the fallout of diversity, then at least they will profit spiritually.
Younger whites may become sort of a 'lost generation' that gets ignored by their teachers and bosses in favor of coddled minority bonus-babies. They will begin to see just how much of a place they really have in the Obamanation(none), and see that from here on out, they will only get the leftovers. They'll see that the older Baby Boomer whites have already completely filled the white job quota, and that they have no chance to play a role in public life. Younger whites will see that their current status will only decrease from where it is at present as their numbers continue to shrink, and as they have no united voice. As the numbers of minorities get larger and larger, they will keep lobbying for more set-asides, more preferences, while younger whites will have absolutely no voice at all................. Then all it would take is a severe enough economic recession for the s**t to hit the fan.
Likely, white armies would be qualitatively superior and have the edge over a larger minority horde. Smaller Occidental armies have routinely trounced larger brown forces throught history and the next American Civil War based on race will likely be no different. The minorities will likely launch their attacks en masse with no tactical planning and be cut down by a few technologically-minded superior whites. (this could be a side result of placing underqualified minorities in many skilled positions where this will have a huge effect on national efficiency, and this will be felt on the Obama-side when the event comes.)
Many American blacks have about the same emotional maturity as a White American teenager IMO. Really, many black adults are really like large children developmentally. While White people will generally sit down and talk out their differences in a civilized manner, black people often fight just to fight at the drop of a hat over the slightest pretext. Its almost like black people just enjoy petty conflict as their natural state, even if there is no real issue. They will create a problem just to create one.
I think that the corporatists wish to generally phase out white people and replace them with a large black population, as they feel that blacks are the much better targets for mass-marketing, due to their current high level of inner-conformity with eachother. This is why you currently see such a large percentage of blacks in USA advertisements, relative to the general population. Blacks all wear the same clothes, and listen to the same music, and eat the same food, etc etc.........
Black adults are really like large children with primoridal desires, and can be easily manipulated, while white people have become very cynical to televised commericals and we have too many white non-conformists to make advertising to whites profitable.
If you lined up 100 black people, you'd find that they are all very similar to eachother with regards to taste and intellect. You could just make one product and push it on them. All you'd have to do is slap Sponge Bob on a pair of low-cut pants, and they'd buy it right up.
White people by contrast no longer fit one or even several different paradigms. You have to make tens of thousands of different products to encompass the full range of white interests.
The problem is still that most older white people still have it too good........... They have too much at stake financially in the current national system. Also, people over age 45 or so have had ample time to participate in white-flight and amply prepare themselves for 2042. The younger whites have been forced to stay mixed in for the most part, and actually spend their formative years in diversity.
I would almost hope though that even if the younger whites suffer materially from the fallout of diversity, then at least they will profit spiritually.
Younger whites may become sort of a 'lost generation' that gets ignored by their teachers and bosses in favor of coddled minority bonus-babies. They will begin to see just how much of a place they really have in the Obamanation(none), and see that from here on out, they will only get the leftovers. They'll see that the older Baby Boomer whites have already completely filled the white job quota, and that they have no chance to play a role in public life. Younger whites will see that their current status will only decrease from where it is at present as their numbers continue to shrink, and as they have no united voice. As the numbers of minorities get larger and larger, they will keep lobbying for more set-asides, more preferences, while younger whites will have absolutely no voice at all................. Then all it would take is a severe enough economic recession for the sh** to hit the fan.
Likely, white armies would be qualitatively superior and have the edge over a larger minority horde. Smaller Occidental armies have routinely trounced larger brown forces throught history and the next American Civil War based on race will likely be no different. The minorities will likely launch their attacks en masse with no tactical planning and be cut down by a few technologically-minded superior whites. (this could be a side result of placing underqualified minorities in many skilled positions where this will have a huge effect on national efficiency, and this will be felt on the Obama-side when the event comes.)
Many American blacks have about the same emotional maturity as a White American teenager IMO. Really, many black adults are really like large children developmentally. While White people will generally sit down and talk out their differences in a civilized manner, black people often fight just to fight at the drop of a hat over the slightest pretext. Its almost like black people just enjoy petty conflict as their natural state, even if there is no real issue. They will create a problem just to create one.
I think that the corporatists wish to generally phase out white people and replace them with a large black population, as they feel that blacks are the much better targets for mass-marketing, due to their current high level of inner-conformity with eachother. This is why you currently see such a large percentage of blacks in USA advertisements, relative to the general population. Blacks all wear the same clothes, and listen to the same music, and eat the same food, etc etc.........
Black adults are really like large children with primoridal desires, and can be easily manipulated, while white people have become very cynical to televised commericals and we have too many white non-conformists to make advertising to whites profitable.
If you lined up 100 black people, you'd find that they are all very similar to eachother with regards to taste and intellect. You could just make one product and push it on them. All you'd have to do is slap Sponge Bob on a pair of low-cut pants, and they'd buy it right up.
White people by contrast no longer fit one or even several different paradigms. You have to make tens of thousands of different products to encompass the full range of white interests.
Couple of bolded points amongst the torrent of racist toss that stood out. First one: The Crusades (whites lost.) Everything that ever happened in Afghanistan. (Afghans win.) Vietnam (twice at least.) And so on. Point two: If you think that violence as a first resort is some sort of black owned domain then you really don't know white people at all well. There are literally millions who will start an argument with a thrown brick and end it with the broken end of a bottle.
I could go on, but most of the rest of the toss hurts my brain too much to correct.
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^ I didn't say all the time........ lol
yeah, we've lost a few wars where we've been swamped, but usually it seems that one white is worth about 20 - 50 of them on any given day on the battlefield.
Most of the time though: Omdurman, the Tet Offensive, Sarikamis, Lepanto, Malta, Vienna (1683), Alexander the Great's whole career............ There are so many examples but my head hurts to list them all.
yeah, we've lost a few wars where we've been swamped, but usually it seems that one white is worth about 20 - 50 of them on any given day on the battlefield.
Most of the time though: Omdurman, the Tet Offensive, Sarikamis, Lepanto, Malta, Vienna (1683), Alexander the Great's whole career............ There are so many examples but my head hurts to list them all.
Omdurman: nothing to do with the guns then? JUST white superiority? Tet? Yanks went ahead and LOST that whole war against men in pyjamas, just like the French did before them. Sarikamis. Been a couple of battles there with lots of different races. Lepanto: It took the little coloured men all of six months to replace their losses, and the Ottoman empire carried on for a lot longer than most of the Holy Leagues dominances. Spain lost its empire way before the Turks, Genoa is just a part of Italy, Venice is just an attractive tourist destination with a suspect odour. Malta: Same as Sarikamis. Lots of battles, lots of different peoples. I could go on, but the sheer overpowering Victorianism of your world-view makes my nuts grate. "Black troops perform excellently when led by white officers." and all that.
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