Islam is a pro-Aspergers religion (unlike Christianity)

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Why bother with religion anyway? IMO, they're BOTH dumb and close-minded, as you put it, but at least you can quit Christianity and live to tell the tale.

wait a minute. you dont wanna conform yet what do you think your doing in islam?

thats hardly a non-conformist idea right there. i mean, really.

religion cant be non conformist i dont think. because you have to follow a set of rules to get into heaven

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I agree, and the Christians who believe in an Atheist conspiracy like you've mentioned are just as silly.

Here's a question to the OP. Do you decide on a religion based on whether it's comfortable, or on whether it's true? Personally, I don't believe Islam to be an aspie friendly religion, but that's not the point. The point is, do you think it's true?

Islam is not a human friendly religion.

ruveyn

Well, I'd certainly agree with that Ruvyen.

Please, stop this forum turning into a place where people can pour out their opinionated views. Keep a wide mind, and stick to the topic! These are not views, but facts: Islam- part of the actual word meaning "peace", is not a violent religion, and has a no more records of violence by extremists ( don't call them fundamentalists, as fundamentalists mean they base actions on the foundations of the religion, and founder Mohammed (May Peace Be With Him) was definitely not the violent sort) than Christianity or Judaism has- Jihad actually means struggle, which if any major religion is to survive, warfare is sometimes necessary. Look at the Roman Empire, and the Just War of Christianity. (opinion here: it's not a just war, but anyway).

Sorry, I'm the one getting off topic, excuse me.

In answer to the topic, through historical attitudes, perhaps Islam is the most friendly towards us on the spectrum- medieval Christians were more the sort to lock up or burn anyone with vaguely unusual behaviour declaring them possessed by the devil . The people who did this were not a minority extremist group like in Islam today, but a majority extremist group. The compassion of Jesus Christ had temporarily been forgotten within Christianity- hence the term- the "Dark Ages". Western society had no idea what was really going on in the world at this stage in history. During the same time within Islam, if you still followed the word of Allah through Mohammed his messenger, no matter your state of being, you were equally regarded within the rest of humankind.

Today, I believe, with the exception of the extremists, both religions are equally accepting as a whole. Extremist focus on certain passages within texts, i.e. like in the bible with St Paul being all against women, but Jesus Christ never was. Some Christians focus on that only, and take it to extremes: Extremism. And in Islam about killing the "infidel" , but the next passage or so says " if to kill one man it as if you have killed all humankind". Extremists ignore that, and take the rest to feed their violent nature.

Personal experiences with either religion discriminating against someone here, don't relate it to a religion. Most people, no matter their beliefs- will always discriminate. It's the way of a materialistic society. And if Islam is therefore less materialistic ( I believe so) then they are perhaps the most accommodating. More Christians than Muslims are yet to emerge from the Medieval form of thinking.

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balls.

Ok, so he smashed some statues, and fought against the corrupt rulers who were out to kill him and his followers. Wouldn't you do the same if someone was going to kill you, or would you just let them kill you? It's not violence, it's basic human survival. Jihad- struggle. You should read the Qur'an and the Bible and get a better understanding of the world out there, sorry, I know you probably meant it light heartedly

I always find it difficult to cope with discussions in which one group are dealing with anecdotal or ad hominem material and another are dealing with generalizations--or worse yet, generalizations extrapolated from a different set of anecdotal and ad hominem material.

The number of people who are making claims in this particular thread, with no more that a smattering of knowledge (let alone any real understanding) leaves me a little gobsmacked.

Incidentally, this applies as much to the OP (who has generalized his own experiences to Islam and Chritianity in general) as to those who claim to have a comprehensive knowledge and understanding of Islam, Christianity and Judaism.

i take pride in my heavy heart. a strong muscle, it tirelessly supports my inane existence and allows me to speak so light heartedly about a delusional, brigand (Peace Be Upon Him) who's hallucinations inspired him to found a powerful faith that would war it's way to dominance of a major geographical region. thank you for reminding me of the peaceful spread of islam by jihad.

he did a pretty good job sticking up for himself.

though i've yet to see a good explanation for the whole marrying a 6 year old thing. i know things were different back then..... but a pedophile (Peace Be Upon Him) is a pedophile.

Ok, a lot of the posts in this thread indicate an ignorance or misunderstanding of the religion of Islam. For example, taqiyah (the correct spelling is taqiyya) is not a doctrine that dictates that Muslims should lie about their faith to non-Muslims so that they would convert, like what Ruveyn said earlier in the thread. What taqiyya is, is a precaution that allows Muslims to lie in order to conceal their faith when under the threat of persecution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyah.

Also, far from mainstream Islam being a violent religion that promotes jihad, it actually has rules against war in general unless it is in self-defence and your country is threatened by the enemy, not to mention that it explicitly forbids attacks against civilians. I guess that rules out 9/11 as something that mainstream Islam would promote.

However, I'm still waiting for the OP to come up with counterarguments, pointing out these things. People often make arguments against Christianity using incorrect interpretations and misunderstandings of Bible, here in the PPR forum but Christians normally step up point out what's wrong. Why can't Muslims do the same?

The very fact apostasy entails death in Islam, makes it a religion not befitting anyone with a rational mind

Islam and Apostasy

That's from a website called WikiIslam. I'm usually sceptical about websites that appear to promote some kind of agenda.

Apostasy requires death is right from the Q'ran. Not from a website.

ruveyn

i like the flavors of islam. i don't have any use for organized religion, however, & don't often feel the need to share on this topic in particular, since people's opinions are so very often uninformed & vehement. it's another of my interests, & my take on it is idiosyncratic.

if i could believe in something i would, but i can't so i don't try. and i don't seem to miss it. i think it is better to accept that the world doesn't make sense (except in parts, except at times) than to pretend that it does, based on an oversimplified grand narrative that simply happens to held in common with others.

if there is a religion inherent to being asperger's, it would have to be gnosticism. this place isn't yours or like you: to quote jim morrison: "into this world you're thrown."

i'm glad that you have found a welcoming group somewhere. that's not common in my experience, & something to cherish.

m.