Is there a need for a Christian Autism/Asperger's forum?

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10 Oct 2011, 11:28 am

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Gedren I respect your belief as to being atheist. I do not agree with your counter arguments as they are a batch of opinions and not looking at the entire conversation.

You mean like the 'opinion' that I think you're being nasty towards someone with no provocation?

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Ok you made your point. You hate Christians because you have this idea that they are all the same. You hate something you don't agree with. I have seen little to no evidence or facts you have sprouted out but generalizations. You think yourself a guru like most people yet for everything you respond with is filled with anger. I need to just let go that people will forever think in such a manner (no matter what their belief system is). My mistake is sinking to the level of generalizations from time to time.

So basically you decided what the other guy thought without any proof whatsoever.

I also note that in there you tried to use the generalizations trick, trying to claim that someone didn't have 'the full piture' there too. How strange.


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I brought up a point, that is not an attack.

Saying that someone hates christians because they think that they are all the same is an attack, except to a person who is trying to kid themselves.

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As for whining about persecution their is a lot more law suits and complaining and whining against people of the Christian faith then their are Christians complaining about persecution themselves.

For which you now provide no certifiable evidence whatsoever to back up this fact. Thus simply an opinion. We will find out whether it is a lie.

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Does not matter what I say though as their will be a consistent attempt to take what I say out of context.

Of which you again provide no proof of where or how this was done at all, thus rendering this as little more than an attack on other people, and more over a defensive attack that stems just crriticism by portraying it as something that it is not.
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Take small excerpts of what I have said and twist it around to suit you and change the meaning of what I am saying in order to demonize me.

Now I know that this is false. Nobody has demonized you here. The only demonizing that has been going on right now is from your own mouth, not anyone else's. We can look above for clear evidence of that. So this is contradictory, even hypocritical. Why would an atheist demonize anyway? It would be counter-productive to the points he makes, the truths he tells, the science and reason he uses to explain things.

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The point I am making is this very means of how what I am saying is responded to. Not to create trouble making but to point out an immature group who responds according to what their extreme ideas.

Give me proof.
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Jacob it is you who do not understand what I am saying.

Who is Jacob?
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It is a severe problem with communication as most of what you say is an attack. As for being defensive it is only diverting unprovoked attacks. I could go back and cut and paste plenty just like you if you want and it would be easy to point out what I am saying.

Then do so rather than provide one unquoted author tract after another. Again, anyone can look up as to where Scythe has demonized.

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Jacob you are so far left field you are out of the park. Anything remotely conservative makes you angry and throw out insults and personal attacks. I can bring up many examples of that.

We now need proof of these otherwise if unproven, outrageous and vile accusations.

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Its hard to take something you say serious when you do not even convey the tiniest little information that you might be wrong or will consider something.

This sounds more like a person who is crotchety that the person they are facing isn't showin doubt in what they profess.

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This does prove the need to create a more familiar forum for those of like minded ideas as anything that is Christian that is said is considered foolish and automatically ret*d. That is the problem is the trolls who are consistent in their intolerance for a belief system.

Yes, yes intolerance. The atheists are intolerant. Except that one christian believes that we are tools of someone else for no apparent reason except her own bigotry and you have accused others of demonizing whilst your demonizing of the other fellow on here is what got you in to hot water with me in the first place. Atheist Intolerance, people. Standing up to Christians.



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10 Oct 2011, 11:39 am

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Take your own advice. Their are more out of context content then what I wrote by far.

Well can you provide evidenc of this without using the most useless attempt at quotation that I have ever seen? And that's saying something.
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If I do it its bad and you make an excuse to not read. If you do it, its logic.

If Oodain what what what? What does this even mean?

Scythe wrote:
The statement of being fine with Christians as long as you don't see or hear.

Now I know that nobody has actually said this. So yeah, misattribution, and twisting.
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That's like saying. I like birds so long as their dead.

Well nobody's advocating a Turducken made out of Christians so I don't know how this applies exactly... Cathotestadox, with a side of Mormayonnaise.
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Why bother even saying it. Just straight up admit your extreme distaste for a specific group.

For which there is no evidence once again. What is it with the christians on this particular thread and feeling that they don't have to provide evidence?

Scythe wrote:
I made factual statements, not emotional outbursts.

Thus coming from the person who accused someone of hating christians whilst providing no evidence of his accusations about atheists, thus essentially demonizing them. I'll be honest here Scythe, you're not even a good Christian.
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Have fun preaching to each other about horrible Christians are because you don't get any other comfort in life.
Vindictiveness and triteness from a Christian. To be honest I am very angry at this two-faced act.



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10 Oct 2011, 2:14 pm

Christianity is regarded by the ignorant as true, by the knowing as false, and by the politicians as useful.


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11 Oct 2011, 1:22 am

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Christianity is regarded by the ignorant as true, by the knowing as false, and by the politicians as useful.


Hmm I have never came across a single ignorant verse by Jesus in the Bible Religion is like the force in Star Wars.

Example.

The Force, in some occasions and descriptions, seems to be rather attentive and conscious despite the initial perception of it as impersonal. For instance, the Force itself impregnates Shmi Skywalker resulting in the birth of Anakin, the "Chosen One"; this is strongly similar to the Nativity Story of Christianity and denotes at least some personality or consciousness to the Force, at least to the point that it is conscious but rarely personal with the universe. This parallel is undermined by the discussion of Darth Plagueis, who was said by Palpatine to be "so wise and so powerful that he could actually use the Force to influence the midi-chlorians to create life."

Clearly, a "Chosen One" of the Force is similar to the Christian view of Jesus, in that it is an "Anointed" or "Chosen" or "Elect" One that redeems the Light and brings greater balance to "the Force". Christ's death on the cross as a means of deliverance is also echoed by the destruction of the old republic and the Jedi order as part of the fulfilment of Anakin's destiny to bring balance to the force. Furthermore, Christ is considered by Christians to have had no father and to have been conceived by the Holy Ghost, just as Anakin, the supposed "Chosen One", is assumed to have been conceived by midi-chlorians, as he too had no father.

Another Example.

The monastic tradition from Christianity, Hinduism, and Buddhism religions is echoed in the strict code by which the Jedi live. The Jedi do not seek after material possessions. Both Obi-Wan and Yoda spent considerable time living as hermits. The Jedi code also forbids romantic love of any kind - making it similar to Catholic vows of celibacy.

The ethical values of the Jedi Order also bear similarities to that of the philosopher Immanuel Kant: whose ethical theory is based around actions motivated by duty not passion, and includes many moral maxims similar to Jedi values. The reverse can also be applied to the Sith, i.e. Sith are motivated by passion not duty.

Or you could just look up Philosophy and religion in Star Wars you can not see the force but both the Jedi and the Sith use the force.



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14 Oct 2011, 7:41 pm

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I think the utter nonsense that transpired from one single post just solidified the case for the need for a Christian board.

YES, Christian Aspies need our own board. When we don't have our own space to discuss substantive issues (i.e. spiritual growth,salvation, witnessing, etc.), the devil uses tools, many of which have boldly shown themselves on here, to try to disrupt and attack us.

YES, Christian Aspies need our own space where we are not attacked, where we can have intelligent discussions and where we are not subjected to the spiritual pollution that seeps in and attempts to undermine our purpose, our growth.

Understand the intent of these "tools." They are just pawns, they are being used by the enemy to inhibit discussion and growth. They want to intimidate and prevent people from having conversations that will further their understanding and facilitate their spiritual growth.

This is a Christian Aspie forum http://christian-aspie-forum.com
It is just for Aspies, by Aspies. Anyone who starts this type of heckling and harassing nonsense will be dealt with swiftly. If they can't be respectful they will e banned.

Right now, you are in a pit of vipers who serve the enemy - sad thing is, most of them aren't even aware enough to realize this, that they are being used, that they are nothing more than puppets, tools.

Very sad.


Are you calling me a Tool of the Devil? I have said some negative things about Christianity and almost won (EDIT: had a good chance of winning) the WP Strident Atheist Election a couple months ago. If you are calling me a Tool of the Devil, I am going to do something concerning that.


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14 Oct 2011, 8:09 pm

It seems obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread see no valid reason for having a separate and exclusive forum dedicated solely for use by Christians.

This is aside from the fact that Alex (the owner) has stated that if such a forum were created in WP, he'd have to create one for every other religion.

Since there seems to be more than 30,000 unique Christian religious systems, this opens up concerns for which one gets precedence, which others should be included (and in what order), and which ones should be omitted entirely.


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15 Oct 2011, 3:09 pm

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It seems obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread see no valid reason for having a separate and exclusive forum dedicated solely for use by Christians.

This is aside from the fact that Alex (the owner) has stated that if such a forum were created in WP, he'd have to create one for every other religion.

Since there seems to be more than 30,000 unique Christian religious systems, this opens up concerns for which one gets precedence, which others should be included (and in what order), and which ones should be omitted entirely.


I do not need such a fourm to be created it's why I have church, I study all religons because I am curious of their beliefs.



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15 Oct 2011, 3:33 pm

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Fnord wrote:
It seems obvious that the majority of people posting in this thread see no valid reason for having a separate and exclusive forum dedicated solely for use by Christians. This is aside from the fact that Alex (the owner) has stated that if such a forum were created in WP, he'd have to create one for every other religion. Since there seems to be more than 30,000 unique Christian religious systems, this opens up concerns for which one gets precedence, which others should be included (and in what order), and which ones should be omitted entirely.
I do not need such a fourm to be created it's why I have church, I study all religons because I am curious of their beliefs.

OMG!! ! What an amazing concept! Why didn't anyone think of this before?

People who want to exercise their religious beliefs could attend a church, a mosque, a temple, or whatever their god-loving hearts desire!

This would make religious forums on public websites completely unnecessary and virtually useless.

If we're not careful, though, this whole "church thing" just might catch on. Then there'd be no more fundies trolling for abuse on WP. What shall we do then? Oh, whatever shall we do without our reality-bashing fundies?

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15 Oct 2011, 4:10 pm

Atheists will start to respect religious people, the same day that they stop shoving their opinions on how other people should live their lives down everyone else's throats.

Until then - expect no respect! Expect to be criticized, expect being challenged, expect to defend your opinion - and above else, expect to be asked to provide evidence. We do not give a s**t about the concept of belief.

Our god is Truth. Yours is not.

IMO, you are welcome to stay, but FFS get of your high-moral-horses!


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15 Oct 2011, 4:31 pm

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I think the utter nonsense that transpired from one single post just solidified the case for the need for a Christian board.


And I think all the utter nonsense contained within your post provides evidence of why so many rational people have a strong distaste in their mouths every time some Fundie Christian starts whining about persecution. The most charitable interpretation imaginable for this post is that you are deliberately satirizing persecution-complex fundies ( see Poe's law ).

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YES, Christian Aspies need our own board. When we don't have our own space to discuss substantive issues (i.e. spiritual growth,salvation, witnessing, etc.), the devil uses tools, many of which have boldly shown themselves on here, to try to disrupt and attack us.


What a nice example of why Fundie Xianity has no intellectual respectability nowadays. It's nice to see this paranoid mentality that people who regularly own you with rational arguments are "Satan's pawns", but since God is all powerful Satan and hence rational pwners of Xianity are all part of his plan as well. So I guess the people who regularly trounce your lack of logic are also God's pawns, as well.

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YES, Christian Aspies need our own space where we are not attacked, where we can have intelligent discussions and where we are not subjected to the spiritual pollution that seeps in and attempts to undermine our purpose, our growth.

Understand the intent of these "tools." They are just pawns, they are being used by the enemy to inhibit discussion and growth. They want to intimidate and prevent people from having conversations that will further their understanding and facilitate their spiritual growth.


What, people with the strength of JESUS can't withstand a few intellectual criticisms so as to "spiritually develop"? I guess Jesus must be pretty damn weak, then. Any intellectually honest person, btw, considers self and other criticism a crucial part of self-growth (I guess this just goes to show how perverted, harmful, and unhealthy fundie Xianity is).

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This is a Christian Aspie forum http://christian-aspie-forum.com
It is just for Aspies, by Aspies. Anyone who starts this type of heckling and harassing nonsense will be dealt with swiftly. If they can't be respectful they will e banned.


Amazing. Satan can use people as pawns at will yet is unable to get passed part-time moderators!

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Right now, you are in a pit of vipers who serve the enemy - sad thing is, most of them aren't even aware enough to realize this, that they are being used, that they are nothing more than puppets, tools.

Very sad.


The really sad thing is that there's a half-decent chance you actually believe that crap.


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15 Oct 2011, 5:00 pm

Fotojunkie's description of Satan's chessmastery of various atheist "pawns" is rather amusing, as well. If Satan really wanted to divert poor, wittle ol', fundies from THE TRUTH™ s/he'd probably be a bit more ingenious, wouldn't you think? Rather then getting atheists to hurt poor wittle ol' fundies feelings by destroying their beliefs, s/he'd get the most respect members of ChristianAspie forums and subtly pervert the orthodoxy while claiming to uphold it to really derail people from the "straight and narrow path". Which, using fotojunkie's conspiratorial logic, forces me to ask: Fotojunkie, are you a pawn of Satan??! !


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17 Oct 2011, 12:07 am

Master_Pedant wrote:
Fotojunkie's description of Satan's chessmastery of various atheist "pawns" is rather amusing, as well. If Satan really wanted to divert poor, wittle ol', fundies from THE TRUTH™ s/he'd probably be a bit more ingenious, wouldn't you think? Rather then getting atheists to hurt poor wittle ol' fundies feelings by destroying their beliefs, s/he'd get the most respect members of ChristianAspie forums and subtly pervert the orthodoxy while claiming to uphold it to really derail people from the "straight and narrow path". Which, using fotojunkie's conspiratorial logic, forces me to ask: Fotojunkie, are you a pawn of Satan??! !


You just made my head go numb.