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07 May 2011, 5:09 pm

I would also add that the OP probably admires a certain inbreeding Germanic family that's an integral part of the British Upper Class.

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07 May 2011, 5:18 pm

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I would also add that the OP probably admires a certain inbreeding Germanic family that's an integral part of the British Upper Class.

The sheep that read the Daily Mail forget about the ancestry of there favourite family :wink:

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07 May 2011, 7:12 pm

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Master_Pedant wrote:

I would also add that the OP probably admires a certain inbreeding Germanic family that's an integral part of the British Upper Class.

The sheep that read the Daily Mail forget about the ancestry of there favourite family :wink:

Very recently GERMAN - but no more nor less Germanic than the randomly chosen Englishman or Frenchman on the street.

Genealogy is one of my deals - the family mingles in unsortable proportions High German, Netherlandic, Callic and Goidelic and Brythonic Celtic, Nordic, with Italic, Greek and Slavic trace elements.

A typisch middle class Englishman, will have slightly different proportions and maybe no Slavs, but - Sayers puts in I think Wimsey's mouth "the English are the ony race that boasts of being mongrels"

Think in terms of a Chicago Pole.

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07 May 2011, 7:48 pm

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'Gypsies' is a derogatory term, they are called Romani People

I'm a bit too lazy to get a proper source, but the connotation is mixed:

Wikipedia wrote:

GypsyFurther information: Gypsy
The English term Gypsy (or Gipsy) originates from the Greek word for "Egyptian", Αιγύπτιοι (Aigyptioi, whence modern Greek γύφτοι gifti), in the belief that the Romanies, or some other Gypsy groups (such as the Balkan Egyptians), originated in Egypt, and in one narrative were exiled as punishment for allegedly harbouring the infant Jesus.[28] This exonym is sometimes written with capital letter, to show that it designates an ethnic group.[29] The term 'gypsy' appears when international research programmes, documents and policies on the community are referred to. However, as a term 'gypsy' is considered derogatory by many members of the Roma community because of negative and stereotypical associations with the term.[30]

As described in Victor Hugo's novel The Hunchback of Notre Dame, the mediaeval French referred to the Romanies as egyptiens. The term has come to bear pejorative connotations. The word Gypsy in English has become so pervasive that many Romani organizations use it in their own organizational names.

In North America, the word gypsy is commonly used as a reference to lifestyle[31] or fashion, and not to the Romani ethnicity. The Spanish term gitano and the French term gitan may have the same origin as a reference to Egypt.[32]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people#Gypsy

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07 May 2011, 10:03 pm

Republican: A Democrat that has just been mugged.

Democrat: A Republican that has just been arrested.

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07 May 2011, 10:04 pm

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Republican: A Democrat that has just been mugged.

Democrat: A Republican that has just been arrested.

Political views: Whatever serves your immediate interests

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07 May 2011, 11:48 pm

YES, folks, it is THAT TIME!

And I see that no one either in this public thread nor in my private box [unless it came in in the past ten minutes] has posted a stab at claiming those Philologos points.

The familiar English word of Romani origin is of course, class,

...................... PAL!! !............

Whose base meaning and English cognate is BROTHER.

No Philologos points tonight, but there will be another chance.

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08 May 2011, 3:14 am

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You have no idea on how the english language works. "Bigot" is used generally in the context of humans - mainly, when referring to generalized judgements about ethnic or cultural clusters of humans. Even if "bigotry" as a concept is extended to non-humans, it is usually regarded as quite a different concept (i.e. it's not "bigoted" to say that Chimps are less intelligent but it is to say they don't feel pain, etc).

Regardless, your "point" is based on a lame arse strawman. Nice try with the evasion, though.

My point had nothing to do with the proper definition of the word 'bigot'. My point was that the word is thrown around when someone says something regarding a disparity between races, even when the claim is backed up by a mountain of evidence.

Why is it not bigoted to say that chimps are less intelligent? Please tell me why the double standard. We are, after all, part of the same subfamily tribe, Hominini. There is no such thing as a genus. :roll:

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08 May 2011, 3:20 am

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Don't trust your government or the media, and vote only for so-called right wing nationalist parties with a strong anti-Jewish attitude. Or face total enslavement in the near future. And beware of China; a ruthless Communist dictatorship with no concerns for your well-being. The USA is rotten, but dying. China even more rotten, and she is growing in power. Beware!

You should've made the quote "Varg Vikernes" instead, as I didn't write that and by quoting it with my username it makes it seem as if I personally wrote that.

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08 May 2011, 3:24 am

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Then again...

- they are cannibalistic, and will eat their own young
- they play with (and sometimes eat) their feces
- they are rarely (if ever) toilet-trainable
- their language skills are limited to "point-and-grunt"

All those things are clearly a product of their environment! It is because humans oppress the poor chimpanzees that their development of intelligence is stunted. They grow up in abhorrent conditions, without access to clothes or proper shelter. These environmental factors clearly play a part, and you are a bigot for claiming otherwise! :lol:

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08 May 2011, 3:32 am

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is that a troll i see?

Very likely and one that has nothing remotely interesting or objective to say and no one gives a f**k :roll:

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08 May 2011, 6:26 am

Burzum wrote:

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You should've made the quote "Varg Vikernes" instead, as I didn't write that and by quoting it with my username it makes it seem as if I personally wrote that.

That was...the joke...nevermind.

And to Master_Pedant; chimps don't feel pain? What?

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08 May 2011, 7:52 am

Burzum:

"There is no such thing as a genus. "

A. Quote from my fanatically Chomskian professor [he did not actually turn toward MIT and bow though I have sometimes said so] : There is only one genius in this field.

B. Yes, I can read and spell. And genus, tribe, clade, species are all artefacts of their particular taxonomic model. Individuals exist / individual items exist - the universe exists - all but the integers and the objects quantified and qualified is the work of man.

Please revise:

I suggest "There is no category corresponding to the Linnaean genus in the taxonomic model I use"

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08 May 2011, 8:35 am

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I have no idea what point you are trying to make. I was simply parodying the all too commonly used phrase "there is no such thing as race, we are all human", with the logically equivalent phrase "there is no such thing as a genus, we are all hominins".

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08 May 2011, 8:42 am

Sorry - the point could have been serious, I once heard an academic say "there is no such thing as a Frenchman". Sounds much the same, and since my paleontologist brother will not speak to me long enough to say if the Standard Model still includes genera, I just have to guess.

If it is any comfort, many of my humorous sallies and parodies fly over the plate without getting near the bat.

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08 May 2011, 1:03 pm

So my joke wasn't really REALLY funny then.

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