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20 Jun 2011, 10:57 pm

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Of course not. I suppose my kids don't have a true family either since my husband and I are getting a divorce.

... or is that okay because we had them biologically?


They had a true family, and you are still their mom, same for the dad. And while divorce is a negative and discouraged...it is certainly better than gay marriage.


I'll be sure to look for a female partner next time around. :twisted:


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20 Jun 2011, 10:57 pm

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I like true freedom for all people to be honest, but yes since I live in this nation obviously the first place for me to start if I wanted to influence anything would be here in the U.S......but I do not think I am superior to anyone from another nation just because of my nationality. And we are not as free as you think when you really look at it.


Yes, but if we give up our power as a nation, then we lose all the freedoms we like and become like those china factory workers.
We are not completely free...that would be anarchy. But we have a LOT that we take for granted.



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20 Jun 2011, 10:58 pm

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Using patriotism to back an argument is weak at best.


But it is an argument! :P



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20 Jun 2011, 10:59 pm

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I like true freedom for all people to be honest, but yes since I live in this nation obviously the first place for me to start if I wanted to influence anything would be here in the U.S......but I do not think I am superior to anyone from another nation just because of my nationality. And we are not as free as you think when you really look at it.


Yes, but if we give up our power as a nation, then we lose all the freedoms we like and become like those china factory workers.
We are not completely free...that would be anarchy. But we have a LOT that we take for granted.


Getting the government out of the business of marriage seems like taking control back to me... not giving up control.

But what do I know? I'm just another wicked bisexual.


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20 Jun 2011, 11:00 pm

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Using patriotism to back an argument is weak at best.


But it is an argument! :P


An ill formed one. "If you like what you've got, you'll listen to me! Because... THOSE GAYS!"


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20 Jun 2011, 11:00 pm

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I'll be sure to look for a female partner next time around. :twisted:


Whatever, but I hope that you'll see that wickedness never was happiness. Never ever ever ever. I am just trying to help people understand what happiness is,



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20 Jun 2011, 11:01 pm

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You are right I did not read everything you wrote and I told you why to. Also, where is the logic in claiming animals not humans mind you but animals in nature who exibit homosexual behavior are stupid?

Also I say following everything in the bible is a very bad thing as to me it shows you cannot think for yourself or choose not to. But hey its your choice I just do not think it is valid for everyone.....and certainly should not be pushed on everyone via legislation. Also it is judgemental of you to assume I do not know what the bible says, I grew up christian and as soon as I started really studying the beliefs and actually thinking about them I realised there was no way I could follow something like that.

And I am sure your version of a normal marrige has existed in religion for a long time, but not everyone follows religions and not all religions/spiritual beliefs have such rules.


Ok, but the other stuff you didn't read either.
The number one rule in any debate is to know the argument of both sides.
That's just personal opinion about the animals.

I can think for myself, I've had to make conscious decisions in my life about the things I follow. For instance: I used to swear. Nobody, aside from myself told me to stop, heck, my parents do. But I decided...me, that I wanted to follow that rule. Because "wickedness never was happiness" Alma 41:10. Yes, there are people who blindly follow, but that would not be me, I have a testimony and I am always striving to keep my testimony of what I believe. I study every day (or try my best to)

It's not being pushed on them. Actually, it is being pushed onto us because sooner or later they will be putting the gay thing in school and everyone will want to follow it because it is "cool" when it really is wicked.

But, I am sorry that I judged that you didn't read the bible. Please forgive me on that aspect. I was only inferring because it didn't seem like you knew that gayness was around in times of the bible.

For most of history, people have followed religions actually. It is a recent thing that people go astray. Religion was the social structure over gov't for some time.


Is it so bad that maybe kids at school will learn its not right to bully someone who's homosexual? I mean I highly doubt they are going to push a whole lot of gay things into school cirriculum maybe a bit of tolerance but its impossible to say. Also, maybe you have not read a lot about history but have you seen all the conflict religion causes? Also there are quite a few nasty things within christian history even. I do not support the idea of theocracy, which is what religion being the social structure of government would be, not only do I not support it but most people in the U.S and many other countries do not support it either.



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20 Jun 2011, 11:01 pm

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I'll be sure to look for a female partner next time around. :twisted:


Whatever, but I hope that you'll see that wickedness never was happiness. Never ever ever ever. I am just trying to help people understand what happiness is,


You do that. :lmao:


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20 Jun 2011, 11:03 pm

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So a family consisting of a mom, dad and adopted children is not a true family?


It is, but I am saying....leave all the babies for the parents who can't have them because of a medical reason.


You can, but there is no way in hell to force all people who have the physical ability to have children to re-produce. We do not live in a facist nation after all.



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20 Jun 2011, 11:04 pm

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Getting the government out of the business of marriage seems like taking control back to me... not giving up control.

But what do I know? I'm just another wicked bisexual.


No, but don't you see that gay marriage is getting them in deeper!???!

If all marriage was separate from gov't, I would be estastic....but the two are....haha, married together.

The gov't KNOWS sex and the family (read:marriage) are the most powerful things to humans so OF COURSE they want to control it one way or another.

Now, if they was a movement for the gov't to not control any marriage...sign me up. But since that ain't happening soon, I'll pick the better of the 2 options and say no gay.



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20 Jun 2011, 11:05 pm

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An ill formed one. "If you like what you've got, you'll listen to me! Because... THOSE GAYS!"


Confused again??? I am not saying it that way, I have logical arguments.

Funny, that's what ya'll sound like except it is replaced with THOSE CHRISTIANS!



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20 Jun 2011, 11:05 pm

chrissyrun wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

Getting the government out of the business of marriage seems like taking control back to me... not giving up control.

But what do I know? I'm just another wicked bisexual.


No, but don't you see that gay marriage is getting them in deeper!???!

If all marriage was separate from gov't, I would be estastic....but the two are....haha, married together.

The gov't KNOWS sex and the family (read:marriage) are the most powerful things to humans so OF COURSE they want to control it one way or another.

Now, if they was a movement for the gov't to not control any marriage...sign me up. But since that ain't happening soon, I'll pick the better of the 2 options and say no gay.


I would say it is not getting them in deeper, it is simply allowing something that many people want.....which would really do no harm to anyone. And its not as simple as saying no gay, there are gay people and they are not going to go away nor should they....they are just as valid as all other people.



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20 Jun 2011, 11:07 pm

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Actually animals do exibit homosexual behavior....and sex does not have to be for pregnancy if that is all it is for you cool, but don't push it on othe people and then act like you're high and mighty because you don't have sex for pleasure. And the entire world is not going to turn homosexual, so relax there will still be pleanty of people willing to have sex for reproduction purposes.

And naturally speaking humans are not even defined to two genders, that is another thing your religion probably wants you to think is 'un-natural' and wrong. And I really do not think a few biased people from ancient times know much about people today so though the bible has some value as a historical document it should not be taken litterally. What I also find funny is how a lot of christians pick and choose what they want to follow such as homosexuality being wrong but completely ignore most everything else.

And the only thing that defined 'normal marrige' is society and quite frankly I am sick of this societies close mindedness. and finally some straight people cannot have children, some people that end up with an undefined gender probably cannot naturally have kids either so yeah get off your high horse.


Really?! Because I've never heard of that, and those animals are stupid.
You didn't read everything that I wrote.

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(Oh, and within a normal marriage, it is ok to "enjoy" sex with one partner that they love, but the problem is...the gays feel guilty for not being in marriage and have sex: so they want the marriage thing. However, it is not right for them even if they are married because they can NEVER have children naturallly and thus are skewing the ultimate purpose of sex)


See my argument. It doesn't have to be just for procreation, but that is ultimately what it is made for.

I am not acting high and mighty, I am stating my opinion. Did I ever say that I was better than the people. No, it is just that normal marriage is the correct option. Not the people....THE ACTION.

Who knows if the whole world is going to go gay. It's the last days anyways, anything can happen.

YES, MAN AND WOMAN. There are a few people who are accidentally born with both the parts, but there are tons of medical anomalies. It is defined that way, what else would it be defined as?

They do though, can't you see that they had the same problems. Sodom and Gomorra had gay people too, and a few other places that I can't remember right now. They would know, but you would just like to follow the latest trend instead of following what is tried, tested, and true...and recorded for our help!

Um, NO! I follow pretty much follow everything in the bible. Or I try my best, and the D+C and the book of Mormon, and the pearl of great price, and my prophet and leaders with modern day revelation who say that gay marriage is wrong. I am not trying to be prideful, I have sinned. I am not perfect. BUT, I ALWAYS try to repent because I am trying to become more godlike. I am trying. And that is really judgmental of you. If you don't even know what is in the bible, how can you know if I am following it?

No, normal marriage has been in religion for many years and the family is the unit of heavenly Father that brings us closer to perfection...since you brought it up. Our cultures have been that way for 1000's of years, but it has only been recently (and way back when in the bible) when people decided to defy it.

But it is all about intent!! !! If the people can't have kids, most of them have tried!! !


I couldn't help but notice you made reference to becoming more godlike, the Book of Mormon, the pearl of great price, (not 'the") heavenly father. It seems to me, you're bringing in your Mormon theology of attaining godhood, partway through heterosexual marriage. Call me an Anti-Mormon bigot if you want, but I have to tell you, your religion has little credibility among Non-Mormons. You're certainly not going to win over anyone to your side by arguing that homosexual marriage will get someone denied godhood.

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20 Jun 2011, 11:08 pm

chrissyrun wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

Getting the government out of the business of marriage seems like taking control back to me... not giving up control.

But what do I know? I'm just another wicked bisexual.


No, but don't you see that gay marriage is getting them in deeper!???!

If all marriage was separate from gov't, I would be estastic....but the two are....haha, married together.

The gov't KNOWS sex and the family (read:marriage) are the most powerful things to humans so OF COURSE they want to control it one way or another.

Now, if they was a movement for the gov't to not control any marriage...sign me up. But since that ain't happening soon, I'll pick the better of the 2 options and say no gay.


No, I don't see it. You know what I see when I come across a same sex couple?

... nothing special.

No, the government has no business controlling who can and can't get into my pants. *I* am the only one that should control such things. Period, end of.


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20 Jun 2011, 11:08 pm

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Is it so bad that maybe kids at school will learn its not right to bully someone who's homosexual? I mean I highly doubt they are going to push a whole lot of gay things into school cirriculum maybe a bit of tolerance but its impossible to say. Also, maybe you have not read a lot about history but have you seen all the conflict religion causes? Also there are quite a few nasty things within christian history even. I do not support the idea of theocracy, which is what religion being the social structure of government would be, not only do I not support it but most people in the U.S and many other countries do not support it either.


COME ON! I already wrote about that. Ugh. I know people shouldn't bully, that is mean. But they'll make it seem cool.

Religion does cause conflict, but it also brings some of the greatest joy, if you only knew.

I don't think any 1 religion should be the main structure, but being religious should be.



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20 Jun 2011, 11:08 pm

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I like true freedom for all people to be honest, but yes since I live in this nation obviously the first place for me to start if I wanted to influence anything would be here in the U.S......but I do not think I am superior to anyone from another nation just because of my nationality. And we are not as free as you think when you really look at it.


Yes, but if we give up our power as a nation, then we lose all the freedoms we like and become like those china factory workers.
We are not completely free...that would be anarchy. But we have a LOT that we take for granted.


Nationalism is a very dangerous thing, and look around we are becoming a lot like those chinese factory workers.....did you know 1% of the population controls most of the wealth, leaving a growing rate of un-employement and increasing the size of the poverty population. Also do you know why those chinese factory workers have to live the way they do? Corporate exploitation and the fact of the matter is a lot of these corporations come from the U.S. But corporate america is not going to stop there they wont stop when the citizens of the U.S are the only ones left to exploit.