Hey KXMode

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philosophy doesn't always have an answer that science will find acceptable and science doesn't always have an answer that philosophy finds acceptable. Which is fine. They should stick to their domain and not try to claim authority over matters that are beyond their reach.

Hence why I called KXMode manipulative. He knows deep down inside that he doesn't "forgive me" in the deepest of his hearts. Most likely, he hates me because I'm an ex member of his current faith and I've challenged his worldview. He's instructed by his religion to hate me and anybody who challenges his worldview. He knows it and I know it. He hates me.

Proof? Here's what his organization says about people who leave the faith..

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/apostate.html



And here's what he said about me personally.

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You've already made it abundantly clear you're an ex-Witness, and your views are absolutely apostate. I want nothing to do with you or this thread. [/quote]

Seeing how "Apostates" are talked about in JW publications, the term "Apostate" is a very emotionally charged insult. It's like being called a "witch" in colonial Salem, MA. In my old hall, if you were considered an "Apostate", nobody talked to you. You were treated like a pariah. KXMode was

So in essence, I really said nothing about or to KXmode which was unwarranted or even mean spirited, I simply asked him a hard question. If he's claiming that he has the truth and how his way is the best way, he should be used to hard questions. He responded by calling me a name which is disparaging in JW circles. Now who's the bully?


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and so far, there's little evidence to state anything other than his religion's a high-control faith which relies on stringent rules and aggressive marketing. It's hurtful, yeah. Why? Everybody's religion is close and means a lot to them, and nobody wants to hear that their religion is spurious and is a racket. Even fewer people like hearing criticism from ex members of their faith.

I've been a witness before, I knew what it was like when I found out the dirty secrets of the WT. When I found out about the dirty secrets of the Watchtower org and my family found out I was visiting "apostate" websites, I instantly became a pariah in my family. I was physically and emotionally abused, my belongings were thrown away because they invited "demons" into the house.

Him calling me a word which carries so much malice and hate in the world of Jehovah's Witnesses is bullying in itself. It's like calling a black guy the N word.

Well, maybe not. KXMode's a lightweight compared to all the other JWs I've talked to. But he's still a bully. Just because somebody's a lightweight doesn't mean they can't be a bully. KXMode is a bully, but he's a lightweight bully.



Here, the arrogant, manipulative, passive aggressive jerk known as KXMode pretty much says he's better than anybody who's not a Witness. Yes, I did call him arrogant, manipulative and passive aggressive, however, he did say that he had pity on all of us because we didn't see things his way, and he "forgave us" for asking him tough questions he's yet to answer. That is the stark definition of manipulative, arrogant and passive aggressive. And jerks do tend to rely on passive aggression, so I guess my ad hominem attack is relevant.



Here, the bully threatens us with divine annihilation because we all dismissed what he believes in.. Again, he's a manipulative, weak, passive aggressive troll, and the more you feed into his woeismeism, the more power you give this religious spam troll. He's not really here to discuss his religion, but rather bash it over your heads, by any means necessary.

Anymore about this topic you want to discuss?

So.

kxmode says [in effect] "God is going to get you and you are asking for it."

For which you identify him as a bully.

If you don't buy into his theology - and he can't even play with your name - how does the bullying come in?

Bingo. Science cannot explain the spiritual and spiritual topics cannot be verified scientifically. The best thing to do is let science and religion/philosophy be separate. I'm glad KXMode found a sort of spirituality in his life and I'm glad he found a community. It's hard being aspie and not having a community. Again, if the WT goes soft and apologizes for all of its false prophecy, rescinds its more bizarre doctrines and high control behavior, I'll be glad to rejoin the community. But until then, I'm boycotting the faith and any witness who says the faith is such a nice place to be better be prepared to back it up before they get super braggadocios.

He's attempting to intimidate me using divine retribution. Trying to intimidate a person in any way is a form of bullying. Of course, I don't take his bullying seriously since I take his threats of divine retribution with a grain of salt. But it's still bullying.

It is very doubtful that he is "trying to intimidate you". "You'll be sorry" is not exactly an earth shattering threat.

But even if it were an attempt to intimidate you - instead of being for him a plain statement of fact - you cannot call that bullying without twisting the words till it is unrecognizable.

Great Patham will be disappointed in you if you keep it up. Better check under your bed for madzimu tonight.

I guess now I am a bully.

Hey - you are intimidating me by labelling me a bully. I'm gonna tell on you.

No, but he is still trying (And may I also add, hilariously failing) to intimidate me by threatening me, somebody who left his faith and really has no ounce of belief in his religion with divine annihilation because I left his faith and criticized it in public.

I do agree though, his attempt at intimidation is sort of trite... Actually, scratch that. It's freaking hilarious. It shows who he really is. KXMode pretends to be somebody who's nice and personable, but when it really comes down to it, he becomes a manipulative, passive aggressive creep who threatens people with divine annihilation if they criticize his faith.

What's even funnier is the things we're criticizing his church about can be backed up by his church's own writings. So in essence, he's attacking his own church and damning people to being killed by God because we made him and his church look like hypocrites. Say if you will, that I'm being heavy handed, but I never threatened KXMode or the other JWs on this thread nor did I call them any names which could be regarded as "hateful". However, the JWs did call me something which in their religion's vernacular and social circles, is about the worst thing you can ever call a person.

Now who's the heavy handed one now? As straightforward as I can get to be, at least I don't resort to ad hominem attacks to push my point, unlike KXMode. And KXMode did prove my point without me having to say anything.

I think this is the important point. You could have been called a jerk, an idiot, or a thousand other things, but it seems to me that this particular word was chosen on the basis of being understood by an ex-JW to be really strong - an "ultimate obscenity", like the "N" word. Instead of a simple denial or disagreement, the "big club" got used.
All rather trite and silly-spiteful, but I have no doubt as to the intention.

KXMode calling me an apostate is like a 5'3" fat, out of shape white supremacist calling Rampage Jackson a racial slur.