Page 6 of 7 [ 100 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

androbot2084
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,447

18 Sep 2011, 1:17 am

Stars like our Sun are not examples of an uncontrolled nuclear reaction like an atomic bomb because if this were the case the Sun would go super nova and explode destroying the entire solar system. The immense mass of the Sun with its extreme gravity does a good job at controlling the nuclear reactions



iamnotaparakeet
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 31 Jul 2007
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 25,091
Location: 0.5 Galactic radius

18 Sep 2011, 7:14 am

androbot2084 wrote:
Stars like our Sun are not examples of an uncontrolled nuclear reaction like an atomic bomb because if this were the case the Sun would go super nova and explode destroying the entire solar system. The immense mass of the Sun with its extreme gravity does a good job at controlling the nuclear reactions


The most a star with the mass of our sun could do is expand into a red giant.



androbot2084
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,447

18 Sep 2011, 3:59 pm

Hydrogen bombs using uncontrolled nuclear reactions can do a better job of creating black holes than our Sun provided the hydrogen bomb is big enough



Jono
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Jul 2008
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,657
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa

18 Sep 2011, 4:19 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Hydrogen bombs using uncontrolled nuclear reactions can do a better job of creating black holes than our Sun provided the hydrogen bomb is big enough


What?! Hydrogen bombs cannot make black holes at all. In order for a black hole to be created, matter has to be compressed to a sufficient density. An explosion from a hydrogen bomb can only vaporize stuff. Learn some physics, please.



ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 88
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

18 Sep 2011, 4:38 pm

To androbot.

You are an ignoramus pure and simple when it comes to matters of physics. It is better to keep your mouth (and your keyboard) quite and have people think you are a fool, then to express nonsense have have people KNOW you are a fool.

ruveyn



androbot2084
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,447

18 Sep 2011, 8:26 pm

Stephen Hawking made the assertion that if a hydrogen bomb were built that used all the deuterium in the worlds oceans that a black hole would be created.



ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 88
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

18 Sep 2011, 9:28 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Stephen Hawking made the assertion that if a hydrogen bomb were built that used all the deuterium in the worlds oceans that a black hole would be created.


And if my grandmother had balls she would be my grandfather.

ruveyn



Jono
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Jul 2008
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,657
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa

19 Sep 2011, 5:16 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Stephen Hawking made the assertion that if a hydrogen bomb were built that used all the deuterium in the worlds oceans that a black hole would be created.


:lol: What Stephen Hawking said and what you are saying are two completely different things.



androbot2084
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,447

19 Sep 2011, 8:34 pm

No, you are saying that it takes a Star with a minimum mass of ten Suns to create a black hole and that a miniature black hole is impossible.



ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 88
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

19 Sep 2011, 8:40 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Why don't you google "miniature black hole"


If you took your own advice you will see that most likely no such mini black holes will be produced in the high energy colliders.

ruveyn



androbot2084
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,447

19 Sep 2011, 8:45 pm

There is no atom smasher yet built that can produce the equivalent power of all the deuterium found in all of the oceans of the world.



ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 88
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

19 Sep 2011, 8:47 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
There is no atom smasher yet built that can produce the equivalent power of all the deuterium found in all of the oceans of the world.


No sh*t?

ruveyn



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

19 Sep 2011, 8:49 pm

Gods damn but this thread got tedious


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


androbot2084
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,447

19 Sep 2011, 8:59 pm

Anyway I calculated that there are 3000 trillion tons of heavy water in the worlds oceans which at a million to one energy density ratio would equal to 3000 million trillion tons of dynamite. So now I have to figure out how many solar panels I will need for the equivalent energy output to create my artificial black hole.



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

19 Sep 2011, 9:02 pm

Could this thread please go back on track? It was interesting to begin with. We get that you are obsessed with NPP, that's great, start a thread about it, please?


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


androbot2084
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,447

19 Sep 2011, 9:04 pm

So I need 3 trillion trillion kilowatt hours for my black hole.