What's so bad about abstinence?

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Thank you for a blatent example as to why I'm against abortions. All abortion does is promote irresponsible behavior.

So you're saying that utilizing not one, but two methods of birth control is irresponsible? Even if you were married, not just having long term relationship or casual sex, this would still apply, unless you literally only intend to have sex to procreate. Your wife probably wouldn't be very happy about that

Prevention is not abortion. That's the viewpoint in fact of most Protestant denominations.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

If she is the right woman, what's the point of waiting? If you are going to spend the rest of your life with her, then there is no reason to wait. You can just start your life of sexual satisfaction with her. Because you already made your decision to be with her forever.

That wait makes no sense, really.

What's so bad about abstinence?

Well, as a strong arm policy, it leads to ignorance, and with one of my high school teachers, in between his waving the Bible and proclaiming mandatory abstinence, while I practiced what he preached instead of what he wanted, he raped me using brute force. I was later accused of using "insincere abstinence" as a flirting temptation inciting the "purported" violence, after, with insubordination, I absolutely avoided all situations of being alone with him following the second assault, and with the third assault, he attacked me in front of the entire class.

Tadzio

You could have avoided impregnating your girlfriend by ejaculating into her mouth, between her breasts, or all over her face. Sin potentially occurs only when you ejaculate into her vagina.


A shower is a good idea, if you're going out somewhere afterwards.

pandabear, I've pointed this out numerous times, I'm still a virgin, that means I have not put myself into situations like that.

There are many ways in which a woman can please a man and remain a virgin.

Technically, Onan's sin was his failure to uphold his responsibilities as a member of a family group.

A careful reading of most any version of the christian bible will make that clear. The tale of Onan as explained in jewish scripture makes it even more clear.

You have to keep in mind that the whole idea of having the family group was for a family line to survive.

Onan's brother died, leaving behind a childless widow. It was his responsibility, according to the laws under which he lived, to give his brother's widow children.

Onan didn't mind screwing her, but he was careful not to give her children, because they would not - according to the society he lived in - be considered his children.

Ultimately in order to get herself knocked up she disguises herself as a prostitute in order to get hired by Onan's father when their cousin (or was it Onan's father's brother? I forget) comes into town and quite naturally they want to show him a good time.

In the christian bible, when this all comes to a head, Onan is "struck down by God". In jewish scripture, he's killed by his in-laws.

So, ask yourself, if your sister's husband died, and the brother-in-law said stepped up to take care of her in her mourning, but it turned out that he was just using her for sex, you'd pretty much want him dead, right? Works the same always.

What's most interesting about the story is that nobody seems to have a problem with prostitution. Or a problem with knocking up a prostitute.

But shirking your familial duties and being an as*hole about it? That'll get you lynched.

I think that Jews still follow this.

Not the coitus interruptus part. That is just for Christians.

Younger brothers have to marry the widow.

And Tel Aviv is the prostitution capitol of the world these days, right?

Correct. And, no coitus interruptus practised there.

Okay you bear/raccoon crossbreed, I think it is time you go back to China.

Did you think that all Jews in Israel behaved exactly as your Sunday school teachers taught you to act?

No, but I also don't think all atheists are as obnoxious as you are either.

You are aware of Tel Aviv, and of where Glenn Beck rallyists congregated for post-rally celebrations.