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hyperlexian wrote:
ok, here's the nitty gritty. a map that shows the rates of female homicide by country. and guess what? muslim countries that they have data for have fairly low rates of female homicide. have a look at some of europe and south america. it's quite a contrast.
http://www.genevadeclaration.org/filead ... 11_CH4.pdf
i wish there were statistics for more countries, but it's definitely an interesting snapshot.
http://www.genevadeclaration.org/filead ... 11_CH4.pdf
i wish there were statistics for more countries, but it's definitely an interesting snapshot.
hyperlexian wrote:
the rates of violence are the same, so there is no difference in the result. with or without religious sanction there is suffering.
Ok Hyperlexian, I've just read the whole document that you posted and I'm a little confused about how you draw your conclusions.
You see here is the Nitty Gritty. On the map basically there is zero data for all of Africa and zero data for the entire middle east. How on earth do derive the conclusions that you do when you have no data?
PS from your very same document I quote:
Quote:
Armed groups persistently target women who are
seen as breaking away from their traditional roles.
Numerous women in public positions have been
threatened, harassed, and killed. As reported by the
United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan:
Of five high-profile women interviewed in
2005 by a newspaper interested in covering
stories of Afghan women who wanted to
take a role in reconstructing their country,
three have been murdered and one had to
flee the country (UNAMA, 2009, p. 10).
Malalai Kakar, the highest-ranking female police
officer in Kandahar, was killed in September 2008,
allegedly because she was leading a unit of ten policewomen dealing with domestic violence (UNAMA,
2009, p. 11).
Young girls are also explicitly targeted with violence:
Insurgent groups have repeatedly attacked
education infrastructure in general and girls’
schools in particular. Security fears have
resulted in the closure of over 70% of schools
in Helmand province of Afghanistan (UNESCO,
2011, p. 15).
The Ministry of Women’s Affairs recorded 192 attacks
on schools by insurgent groups between July 2005
and February 2007 alone, including their looting,
burning, and total destruction. As a result of such
attacks, ‘parents fear sending their children to
school, especially daughters’ (MOWA, 2008, p. 11).
Today, only 66 girls are enrolled for every 100 boys
(UNESCO, 2011, p.
.
Afghanistan suffers from extensive domestic violence directed against women.
seen as breaking away from their traditional roles.
Numerous women in public positions have been
threatened, harassed, and killed. As reported by the
United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan:
Of five high-profile women interviewed in
2005 by a newspaper interested in covering
stories of Afghan women who wanted to
take a role in reconstructing their country,
three have been murdered and one had to
flee the country (UNAMA, 2009, p. 10).
Malalai Kakar, the highest-ranking female police
officer in Kandahar, was killed in September 2008,
allegedly because she was leading a unit of ten policewomen dealing with domestic violence (UNAMA,
2009, p. 11).
Young girls are also explicitly targeted with violence:
Insurgent groups have repeatedly attacked
education infrastructure in general and girls’
schools in particular. Security fears have
resulted in the closure of over 70% of schools
in Helmand province of Afghanistan (UNESCO,
2011, p. 15).
The Ministry of Women’s Affairs recorded 192 attacks
on schools by insurgent groups between July 2005
and February 2007 alone, including their looting,
burning, and total destruction. As a result of such
attacks, ‘parents fear sending their children to
school, especially daughters’ (MOWA, 2008, p. 11).
Today, only 66 girls are enrolled for every 100 boys
(UNESCO, 2011, p.
.Afghanistan suffers from extensive domestic violence directed against women.
You are actually using this document to justify your statement
hyperlexian wrote:
the rates of violence are the same, so there is no difference in the result.
Perhaps you can explain something to me, using either Canada or Britain as an example.
Where exactly are armed insurgents systematically destroying girl's schools in Canada or Britain?
Where exactly are the bodies of British or Canadian female politicians if they are subject to the same level of violence (your claim remember and your source of evidence)
Of five high profile women interviewed in 2005 three have been murdered and one forced to flee the country. You are seriously claiming that British women suffer this sort of persecution are you?
If you bother to read the evidence you post you will find lots of other problems with your interpretation of it.
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Another lethal scenario is the killing of a rape
victim in order to restore the family ‘honour’. For
example, in Libya women and girls who become
pregnant through rape run the risk of being murdered
by a family member in so-called ‘honour’ killings (Harter, 2011).
Other studies confirm that a
rape victim may be killed in defence of the family
‘honour’ (Ruggi, 1998; Faqir, 2001).
victim in order to restore the family ‘honour’. For
example, in Libya women and girls who become
pregnant through rape run the risk of being murdered
by a family member in so-called ‘honour’ killings (Harter, 2011).
Other studies confirm that a
rape victim may be killed in defence of the family
‘honour’ (Ruggi, 1998; Faqir, 2001).
Oh dear, oh dear.
When making absurd claims defending Islam perhaps you should choose better sources in future.
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