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whats your opinion
mission accomplished 10%  10%  [ 4 ]
men have feelings too 90%  90%  [ 35 ]
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13 Sep 2012, 5:18 am

If a female hits me, I hit her back the same as if she were a man.

What, I'm bigger and stronger than most females (the same for the average man too)? Shouldn't have hit a bigger and stronger person, duh.

It's the social bullying that gets me though, as I can't respond to it. Learnt at an early age you get in trouble for hitting at words. Words seem to hurt more than the physical stuff in most cases too.



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13 Sep 2012, 5:26 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab2b-k_ZaEM&feature=related[/youtube]My advice to other men out there in an abusive relationship leave before its too late if you are to have a kid with her she may become an abusive mother as well.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJhYRiwV-7c[/youtube]Interesting thing mentioned about pulling a card thats a system in school for kindergartners if something bad is done in class the student has to pull a card.Its a minor thing really some it starts as blue then green then yellow then orange then red then purple others it starts at green then yellow then orange then red then purple.If a student doesnt pull a card all week he or she gets a little prize from a treasure box.Those were the days.


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13 Sep 2012, 12:48 pm

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What upsets me the most is how so many Aspie women are being recruited into this movement and this galvanizes them against Aspie men. I see feminism as divisive towards minority group by turning women in those groups against their fellow men. They have not been able to do this among homosexuals as gays & lesbians are united and indivisible. But it's depressing to see how they have achieved this among aspies and it's time for us to take a stand!


I was a radical feminist before I found out I had Aspergers.


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13 Sep 2012, 12:58 pm

puddingmouse wrote:
AspieRogue wrote:
What upsets me the most is how so many Aspie women are being recruited into this movement and this galvanizes them against Aspie men. I see feminism as divisive towards minority group by turning women in those groups against their fellow men. They have not been able to do this among homosexuals as gays & lesbians are united and indivisible. But it's depressing to see how they have achieved this among aspies and it's time for us to take a stand!


I was a radical feminist before I found out I had Aspergers.


Technically speaking, you were an aspie female before you were diagnosed/found out.

Dillogic wrote:
If a female hits me, I hit her back the same as if she were a man.

What, I'm bigger and stronger than most females (the same for the average man too)? Shouldn't have hit a bigger and stronger person, duh.


This is also a good point. I wonder how many women who abuse or otherwise physically assault men do so fully knowing that if the man reciprocates in kind he'll always be viewed as the bad guy.



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13 Sep 2012, 3:09 pm

You know whats interesting and crazy is although I have been in a abusive relationship I have not let the hatred consume me and succomb to be coming a misogynistic hateful being because part of me tells me as well as my logic lets me know that not all women are like this and that I should love women for without them we men would cease to exist. Women are not only our lovers, wives/girlfriends but they are our mothers, our grandmothers, our daughters, aunts, and our sisters and they love us very much in return.Women usually who are not corrupted teach us men to be kind and nurturing as well as loving. I know it sounds crazy but thats what I believe and thats whats keeping me from being consumed inside by hatred due to emotional scars.


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17 Sep 2012, 8:26 am

I wonder what the opinions the radical feminists have about this issue?Mission accomplished?If so why? Does oppression and abuse solve the problem of being oppressed and possibly abused as well?Does one believe that men being abused does not exist when there is proof and I as well as others such as Jacobvirgil are living proof?Sorry about all the questions I just want to know.I may or may not like the answer but I want to know.


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17 Sep 2012, 9:15 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
I wonder what the opinions the radical feminists have about this issue?Mission accomplished?If so why? Does oppression and abuse solve the problem of being oppressed and possibly abused as well?Does one believe that men being abused does not exist when there is proof and I as well as others such as Jacobvirgil are living proof?Sorry about all the questions I just want to know.I may or may not like the answer but I want to know.


I doubt those three votes where on the square.


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17 Sep 2012, 10:29 am

JakobVirgil wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
I wonder what the opinions the radical feminists have about this issue?Mission accomplished?If so why? Does oppression and abuse solve the problem of being oppressed and possibly abused as well?Does one believe that men being abused does not exist when there is proof and I as well as others such as Jacobvirgil are living proof?Sorry about all the questions I just want to know.I may or may not like the answer but I want to know.


I doubt those three votes where on the square.
They weren't I probably should have added those 3 though.The mission accomplished one probably would cover those though.I should have added a please explain option for mission accomplished option as well.


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17 Sep 2012, 11:08 am

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You know whats interesting and crazy is although I have been in a abusive relationship I have not let the hatred consume me and succomb to be coming a misogynistic hateful being because part of me tells me as well as my logic lets me know that not all women are like this and that I should love women for without them we men would cease to exist. Women are not only our lovers, wives/girlfriends but they are our mothers, our grandmothers, our daughters, aunts, and our sisters and they love us very much in return.Women usually who are not corrupted teach us men to be kind and nurturing as well as loving. I know it sounds crazy but thats what I believe and thats whats keeping me from being consumed inside by hatred due to emotional scars.




Without men, women wouldn't exist either. We men do a lot for them and yet so many are extremely ungrateful. They need to learn how to more effectively deal with their insecurities and accept the fact that men are are not responsible for their happiness(or lack of it).

You should give women as a group no more or less respect than you give to men as a group. To quite honest, you sound like a very submissive male.



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17 Sep 2012, 11:09 am

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You know whats interesting and crazy is although I have been in a abusive relationship I have not let the hatred consume me and succomb to be coming a misogynistic hateful being because part of me tells me as well as my logic lets me know that not all women are like this and that I should love women for without them we men would cease to exist. Women are not only our lovers, wives/girlfriends but they are our mothers, our grandmothers, our daughters, aunts, and our sisters and they love us very much in return.Women usually who are not corrupted teach us men to be kind and nurturing as well as loving. I know it sounds crazy but thats what I believe and thats whats keeping me from being consumed inside by hatred due to emotional scars.
Stop putting women on a pedestal. You seem to think anything other than that is a slippery slope to misogyny which is exactly what'll set you up for even more abuse since abusers tend to target people like that.



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17 Sep 2012, 11:11 am

AceOfSpades wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
You know whats interesting and crazy is although I have been in a abusive relationship I have not let the hatred consume me and succomb to be coming a misogynistic hateful being because part of me tells me as well as my logic lets me know that not all women are like this and that I should love women for without them we men would cease to exist. Women are not only our lovers, wives/girlfriends but they are our mothers, our grandmothers, our daughters, aunts, and our sisters and they love us very much in return.Women usually who are not corrupted teach us men to be kind and nurturing as well as loving. I know it sounds crazy but thats what I believe and thats whats keeping me from being consumed inside by hatred due to emotional scars.
Stop putting women on a pedestal. You seem to think anything other than that is a slippery slope to misogyny which is exactly what'll set you up for even more abuse since abusers tend to target people like that.




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17 Sep 2012, 11:33 am

AceOfSpades wrote:
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You know whats interesting and crazy is although I have been in a abusive relationship I have not let the hatred consume me and succomb to be coming a misogynistic hateful being because part of me tells me as well as my logic lets me know that not all women are like this and that I should love women for without them we men would cease to exist. Women are not only our lovers, wives/girlfriends but they are our mothers, our grandmothers, our daughters, aunts, and our sisters and they love us very much in return.Women usually who are not corrupted teach us men to be kind and nurturing as well as loving. I know it sounds crazy but thats what I believe and thats whats keeping me from being consumed inside by hatred due to emotional scars.
Stop putting women on a pedestal. You seem to think anything other than that is a slippery slope to misogyny which is exactly what'll set you up for even more abuse since abusers tend to target people like that.


I disagree putting women on pedestals is a time honored method of being able to look up their skirts.


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17 Sep 2012, 11:46 am

JakobVirgil wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
You know whats interesting and crazy is although I have been in a abusive relationship I have not let the hatred consume me and succomb to be coming a misogynistic hateful being because part of me tells me as well as my logic lets me know that not all women are like this and that I should love women for without them we men would cease to exist. Women are not only our lovers, wives/girlfriends but they are our mothers, our grandmothers, our daughters, aunts, and our sisters and they love us very much in return.Women usually who are not corrupted teach us men to be kind and nurturing as well as loving. I know it sounds crazy but thats what I believe and thats whats keeping me from being consumed inside by hatred due to emotional scars.
Stop putting women on a pedestal. You seem to think anything other than that is a slippery slope to misogyny which is exactly what'll set you up for even more abuse since abusers tend to target people like that.


I disagree putting women on pedestals is a time honored method of being able to look up their skirts.
But if putting women on a pedestal doesn't get you anywhere beyond that, then my statement still stands :P



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17 Sep 2012, 11:49 am

^^^ I don't think he's saying I am physically placing them on the pedestool.Although that would be a good way of course ladders work better. :lol: But yeah I guess I am a fairly submissive male maybe its a bad habit I guess but I grew up around a lot of feminism so over time that's what I was brought up to behave like.


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17 Sep 2012, 12:03 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
AceOfSpades wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
You know whats interesting and crazy is although I have been in a abusive relationship I have not let the hatred consume me and succomb to be coming a misogynistic hateful being because part of me tells me as well as my logic lets me know that not all women are like this and that I should love women for without them we men would cease to exist. Women are not only our lovers, wives/girlfriends but they are our mothers, our grandmothers, our daughters, aunts, and our sisters and they love us very much in return.Women usually who are not corrupted teach us men to be kind and nurturing as well as loving. I know it sounds crazy but thats what I believe and thats whats keeping me from being consumed inside by hatred due to emotional scars.
Stop putting women on a pedestal. You seem to think anything other than that is a slippery slope to misogyny which is exactly what'll set you up for even more abuse since abusers tend to target people like that.


I disagree putting women on pedestals is a time honored method of being able to look up their skirts.



Now yer talkin! 8)



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17 Sep 2012, 12:34 pm

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^^^ I don't think he's saying I am physically placing them on the pedestool.Although that would be a good way of course ladders work better. :lol:
I know, I was just giving him a hard time lol.

AspieOtaku wrote:
But yeah I guess I am a fairly submissive male maybe its a bad habit I guess but I grew up around a lot of feminism so o er time that's what I was brought up to behave like.
That habit needs to die really hard. Drawing lines in the sand isn't a vice and being a chump isn't a virtue no matter how much society wants you to serve its own interests above yours.