Should homosexuality be promoted?

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Is this why women become Lesbians? Because they have no worth, are unloved and mistreated? Well, I suppose that I can see turning to Lesbianism, if a woman has had nothing but bad experiences with men.

Of course, women have such nice, soft bodies that jiggle here and there. Who wouldn't like them?

I think that women should be encouraged to enjoy each others bodies--not just women who have had bad experiences with men. You make Lesbians out to be a bunch of pathetic losers.

You can find some translations of some of Sappho's poetry here:

http://www.sappho.com/poetry/sappho.html



Sappho had a good life, was honored in ancient Greece, and promoted sexuality between women.

Is this why women become Lesbians? Because they have no worth, are unloved and mistreated? Well, I suppose that I can see turning to Lesbianism, if a woman has had nothing but bad experiences with men.

Of course, women have such nice, soft bodies that jiggle here and there. Who wouldn't like them?

I think that women should be encouraged to enjoy each others bodies--not just women who have had bad experiences with men. You make Lesbians out to be a bunch of pathetic losers.

You can find some translations of some of Sappho's poetry here:

http://www.sappho.com/poetry/sappho.html



Sappho had a good life, was honored in ancient Greece, and promoted sexuality between women.

I think this thread started as a joke but has now got very mean,I don't care if you f**k your wheelbarrow,just be civil to one another.

I think that sexuality being fluid and all that people who are still atleast a majority percentage heterosexual will still marry the opposite sex no matter the legal status and name of what we call gay marriage. Why do you think heterosexual people need to be societally peer pressured to have sex with the opposite sex? I think that's what comes naturally.

Let's hear it for Sappho!

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Some say thronging cavalry, some say foot soldiers,
others call a fleet the most beautiful of
sights the dark earth offers, but I say it's what-
ever you love best.

And it's easy to make this understood by
everyone, for she who surpassed all human
kind in beauty, Helen, abandoning her
husband--that best of

men--went sailing off to the shores of Troy and
never spent a thought on her child or loving
parents: when the goddess seduced her wits and
left her to wander,

she forgot them all, she could not remember
anything but longing, and lightly straying
aside, lost her way. But that reminds me
now: Anactória,

she's not here, and I'd rather see her lovely
step, her sparkling glance and her face than gaze on
all the troops in Lydia in their chariots and
glittering armor.

It was you, Atthis, who said

"Sappho, if you will not get
up and let us look at you
I shall never love you again!

"Get up, unleash your suppleness,
lift off your Chian nightdress
and, like a lily leaning into

"a spring, bathe in the water.
Cleis is bringing your best
pruple frock and the yellow

"tunic down from the clothes chest;
you will have a cloak thrown over
you and flowers crowning your hair...

"Praxinoa, my child, will you please
roast nuts for our breakfast? One
of the gods is being good to us:

"today we are going at last
into Mitylene, our favorite
city, with Sappho, loveliest

"of its women; she will walk
among us like a mother with
all her daughters around her

"when she comes home from exile..."

But you forget everything


Sappho

Sappho To Her Girlfriends

Fragments 34, 77, 76, 61, 71, 48, 86, 83, 47, 129, and 32 combined.

This is my song of maidens dear to me.
Eranna, a slight girl I counted thee,
When first I looked upon thy form and face,
Slim as a reed, and all devoid of grace.
But stately stature, grace and beauty came
Unto thee with the years — O, dost not shame
For this, Eranna, that thy pride hath grown
Therewith? Alas for thee ! I have not known
One beauty ever of more scornful mien,
As though thou wert of all earth's daughters queen!
Mnasidica is comelier, perchance,
Than my Gyrinna — ah, but sweetly rings
Gyrinna's matchless voice ! In rapture-trance
I listen, listen, while Gyrinna sings.
Hero of Gyara is fleet of foot
As fawns, and as light-footed in the dance,
The dance taught by the measures of my lute.
Ever-impassioned Gorgo! — is it strange
That I grow weary of the change on change
Of thine adored ones? — of thy rhapsodies
O'er each new girlfriend, while the old love dies?
Joy to thee, daughter of a princely race,
For thy last dear one! Lie in her embrace —
Till shines a new star on thy raptured eyes!
Fonder of maids thou art, I trow, than she.
The ghost who nightly steal young girls, to be
In Hades of her woeful company.
This is my fair girl-garden: sweet they grow —
Rose, violet, asphodel and lily's snow;
And which the sweetest is, I do not know;
For rosy arms and starry eyes are there.
Honey-sweet voices and cheeks passing fair.
And these shall men, I ween, remember long;
For these shall bloom for ever in my song.

Raise high the beams of the raftered hall,
(Sing the Hymen-refrain!)
Ye builders, of the bridal-dwelling!
(Sing the Hymen-refrain!)
Lo, the bridegroom comes, as the War-god tall —
(Sing the Hymen-refrain!)
Now nay — yet our tallest in stature excelling;
(Sing the Hymen-refrain!)
For stately he towers above all the throng
As the Lesbian singer towers among
All alien poets, a prince of song.

O happy bridegroom! it cometh to-day,
The bridal thine heart hith longed for aye!
At last shall she be thine own, the maid
For whom thou hast sighed, for whom thou hast prayed.
For none other maiden beneath the skies,
O bridegroom, was like unto her in thine eyes.
Whereunto may I liken thee, bridegroom dear?
To a green vine-shoot in the spring of the year.
Now, now let the bridegroom rejoice, for the bride
Into the hall cometh joyful-eyed.
Ethereal-pale is her lovely face.
Hail, bridegroom! Hail, bride, queenly in grace!
How goodly to see thy lord stands there!
And his goodness will keep him for thee ever fair.
Ah, doth she, ah doth she regretfully brood? —
Does her heart still yearn after maidenhood?
Nay, not in this hour she cries:
'Maidenhood, maidenhood, whither away
Forsaking me?'
While maidenhood replies:
'Not again unto thee shall I come for aye,
Not again unto thee!'
No more, no more doth she chant
Proud young virginity's vaunt:
'As the sweet-apple flames on the tip of a spray against the sky,
At its uttermost point, which the gleaners forgat, and passed it by —
O nay, they forgat it not, but they could not attain so high.'
But she thinks of the fate, an evil thing,
That the years fast-fleeting to fair maids bring.
When the roses are faded, the gold turns grey.
And the smoothness is furrowed, as singeth the lay —
'As the hyacinth-flower on the mountain-side that the shepherds tread
Underfoot, and low on the earth its bloom dark-splendid is shed.'
Lo, her hand into thine hath her father given.
And thou leadest her home 'neath the Star of Even;
To thy portal the bridal-train draws near.
And the Chant Processional rings out clear:
'Hail, Hesper, who bringest home all
That radiant Dawn scattered wide,
Bringest back unto fold and stall
The sheep and the goat, and thy call
Brings the child to the mother's side.
Let the rose-ringed Star of the Evenfall
Usher thee on, love's willing thrall,
Bride, garden of loves like roses blowing.
Bride, loveliest image of Paphos' Queen!
So pass to the bride-bower, pass within
To the nuptial couch, for the sweet bestowing
On the bridegroom, whose measure is overflowing.
Of the bliss, wherein honoured is Hera: 'tis owned
Of the Marriage-goddess, the silver-throned.'

It's not for us Danny.. you grew up in the world the Bible framed, as has everyone for the last 1000 years in the western world, but the world wasn't always this way.

It is for our children, and their children, and so on, who will grow up in a world much like the ancient greeks, egyptians, israelites, germans, french, and chinese, etc where gender is not only less rigid, the preferred object of your sexual affection was very often your own sex.

As it has been articulated many times over in this thread, homosexuals are not the only ones having same-sex relations. Naturally is of unimportance to this discussion, prison mates didn't choose to be caught, confined, and thus stuck with only others of the same sex... but that won't stop them from what they naturally wanted which is intercourse with the opposite sex... they'll go at it with each other, beats having nothing.

How is marriage equality going to send us to a Pagan culture? What your saying would be true if tomorrow after gay marriage passing we tear down Christian culture and start praying to trees again.

I hold my nose and turn aside.

As long as the homosexuals do not go about buggering underage children or unwilling parties I suppose I must hold my peace.

ruveyn

Tolerance: the first step towards conversion.