Beautiful Quranic verses
Anyways I am off to bed.
I just wanted you to see that the Quran does't lie. Anybody that claims so needs to provide me with a clear argument but you can't.
Good bye.
You got owned. Pure and simple.
How did I get I owned when you haven't found a single mistake? I challenged you and you failed.
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Maybe to point out how durable God's works are?
Yes, but such disasters were probably not thought to be coming from beyond the sky. I'm just guessing here, but I may be right.
Maybe because it seemed so self-evident to them.
'Maybe' and 'probably' are a big part of your vocabulary.
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Seriously, mate. He humiliated you.
You might find this interesting:
Muslims believe that the Qur'an contains a message from an all-powerful, all-knowing, infallible being. If this is true then it should not contain any errors, mistakes, or information that contradicts known facts about the universe. If even one error exists in the text of Islam's holy book then the claims of divine authorship and infallibility are not true. An objective evaluation of the Qur’an shows that it contains numerous scientific and historical errors and it reflects a pre-scientific, 7th century view of the natural world.
Some apologists will contest these numerous scientific errors in the Qur'an by appealing to metaphor, alternative meanings, or phenomenological interpretations of the text. Even if we suppose that alternative explanations were possible in every case, the wording and content of the Qur'anic verses often mimic the popular mythology and unscientific misconceptions of the time in which they were recorded. The author of the Qur’an makes no clear or unambiguous statements that differentiate his understanding of the natural world from the common folklore of the people living in the 7th century. If the Qur’an was delivered by an all-powerful, all-knowing being then he would have been able to foresee how such ambiguous and misleading statements would be understood by future generations and the doubts and confusions they would cause. This alone should be reason to reject any claims to its divine authorship.
A fair number of Muslims have had their belief in Islam slowly but surely challenged by researching these 'scientific miracles' and seeing them debunked. This then gradually leads to them distancing themselves from Islam.
Anyways I am off to bed.
I just wanted you to see that the Quran does't lie. Anybody that claims so needs to provide me with a clear argument but you can't.
Good bye.
It claims there is a god. There is no evidence for that assumption.
Seriously, mate. He humiliated you.
You might find this interesting:
Muslims believe that the Qur'an contains a message from an all-powerful, all-knowing, infallible being. If this is true then it should not contain any errors, mistakes, or information that contradicts known facts about the universe. If even one error exists in the text of Islam's holy book then the claims of divine authorship and infallibility are not true. An objective evaluation of the Qur’an shows that it contains numerous scientific and historical errors and it reflects a pre-scientific, 7th century view of the natural world.
Some apologists will contest these numerous scientific errors in the Qur'an by appealing to metaphor, alternative meanings, or phenomenological interpretations of the text. Even if we suppose that alternative explanations were possible in every case, the wording and content of the Qur'anic verses often mimic the popular mythology and unscientific misconceptions of the time in which they were recorded. The author of the Qur’an makes no clear or unambiguous statements that differentiate his understanding of the natural world from the common folklore of the people living in the 7th century. If the Qur’an was delivered by an all-powerful, all-knowing being then he would have been able to foresee how such ambiguous and misleading statements would be understood by future generations and the doubts and confusions they would cause. This alone should be reason to reject any claims to its divine authorship.
A fair number of Muslims have had their belief in Islam slowly but surely challenged by researching these 'scientific miracles' and seeing them debunked. This then gradually leads to them distancing themselves from Islam.
Most of the controversies are the opinion of the author.
For example,
"And remember We divided the sea for you and saved you and drowned Pharaoh's people within your very sight.":
The author claims it is impossible the have a sea split. He is challenging that God can't go against the the law of natures and is not powerful at all. He is called God for a reason. Because he All-powerful. I don't know why people keep detesting God.
All the claims on the science is the Quran is 100% accurate. They are lying just to make Islam look bad.
For example:
They wrote: Brain wave technology has shown that electrical activity happens in the entire brain when a person is being deceitful.
"Let him beware! If he desist not, We will drag him by the forelock. A lying, sinful forehead."
They are liars and their science is inaccurate. Lying originates in the frontal cortex, which is located in the physical region of the forehead. So this is a scientific miracle in itself. How did the Prophet Muhammed know that the lying is active in the forehead region.
Evidence about that:
http://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2008/03/ ... ing-brain/
“Our argument is that the more networking there is in the prefrontal cortex, the more the person has an upper hand in lying. Their verbal skills are higher. They’ve almost got a natural advantage.”
Taken from http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/11655.html
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You want beautiful verses you need to only go to the Al Azif. Why only stick to the Koran...
"Nor is it to be thought...that man is either the oldest or the last of earth's masters, or that the common bulk of life and substance walks alone. The Old Ones were, the Old Ones are, and the Old Ones shall be. Not in the spaces we know, but between them, they walk serene and primal, undimensioned and to us unseen. Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate.
Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth. He knows where the Old Ones broke through of old, and where They shall break through again. He knows where They had trod earth's fields, and where They still tread them, and why no one can behold Them as They tread. By Their smell can men sometimes know Them near, but of Their semblance can no man know, saving only in the features of those They have begotten on mankind; and of those are there many sorts, differing in likeness from man's truest eidolon to that shape without sight or substance which is Them.
They walk unseen and foul in lonely places where the Words have been spoken and the Rites howled through at their Seasons. The wind gibbers with Their voices, and the earth mutters with Their consciousness. They bend the forest and crush the city, yet may not forest or city behold the hand that smites. Kadath in the cold waste hath known Them, and what man knows Kadath? The ice desert of the South and the sunken isles of Ocean hold stones whereon Their seal is engraver, but who hath seen the deep frozen city or the sealed tower long garlanded with seaweed and barnacles?
Great Cthulhu is Their cousin, yet can he spy Them only dimly. Iä! Shub-Niggurath! As a foulness shall ye know Them. Their hand is at your throats, yet ye see Them not; and Their habitation is even one with your guarded threshold. Yog-Sothoth is the key to the gate, whereby the spheres meet. Man rules now where They ruled once; They shall soon rule where man rules now. After summer is winter, after winter summer. They wait patient and potent, for here shall They reign again." - Abdul Alhazred
At least this is something some of us can relate with..... (But we all know Azaam your point is to tell us your better than us, right? ) Iä!
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"What do I care about law? Ain't I got the power?"
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No - the author(s) (it's a wiki, so it will have been a collaborative project) have gone through each scientific claim that the Quran makes to see if it has any validity. And it turns out that they haven't.
Yes he is. Because it is impossible.
If I told you that the moon was made of the best Roquefort because God said so, would you believe me?
I used to believe in God too, as a small child. It gave me nightmares. And this variant of God was really very benign and tolerant compared to what is often taught by Islam and in fundamentalist religions. Everything was much better once I realised that it was all a bit ridiculous and we were only in church because I had to do it to be in the school.
Yes, that's pretty much it.
I remember reading about an Islamic jihadist who believed that when the people had been slaughtered,
I don't detest Him. I don't hate Him. I reject Him and say 'no, this is not for me'. Which means that I, unfortunately, am kuffar that must be subjugated or slaughtered.
I fear what His followers can do to people. I fear what people who believe in Him will do to my society. I fear the mobs, the tantrums, the violence.
They go through it, detail by detail. If you would like, I'm sure you could find a friendly scientifically-minded person to go through them with you step by step.
Azaam what is your opinion on the Yazidi/Yazidis?
Is there any opinions or facts not online you might know about them. Or a Islamic perspective on that cult?
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"I don't care half so much about making money as I do about making my point, and coming out ahead."
"What do I care about law? Ain't I got the power?"
Cornelius Vanderbilt
I know...and yet they have survived.
I'm trying to get an Islamist opinion, Tequila...your not exactly what I'd call a spokesman for them lol.
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"I don't care half so much about making money as I do about making my point, and coming out ahead."
"What do I care about law? Ain't I got the power?"
Cornelius Vanderbilt

That is general Islamist opinion.
You can hear it from him, and he may try to sugar-coat it, but it boils down to what I said previously.
Normative Islam (of the Saudi and Deobandi variety) is not an ideology I want anywhere near me or mine.
I know...I studied the Crusades for over 27yrs. It's just more fair to have him represent his side. He is actually very civil and a very good sport I see no reason to be so aggressive with him. He most likely see's many of us as sword swinging crusaders attacking him already. Because obviously we are not....
.....ummmm at least not anymore...
(SCA Estrella War back in 2000, 12g steel gauntlets and legs, Hardened leather arms, armor made of modern materials on body for safety. Solid Rattan "greatsword". The ol'rib breaker lol)
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"I don't care half so much about making money as I do about making my point, and coming out ahead."
"What do I care about law? Ain't I got the power?"
Cornelius Vanderbilt
Is there any opinions or facts not online you might know about them. Or a Islamic perspective on that cult?
No Muslim considers Yazidis to be Muslims, even the most intelligent Muslim scholars. Thats a no brainer for any Muslim to figure out lol. It has elements of Judaism, Islam, paganism, and Chrisiaianity. My opinion is that it is made up and that the devils have a direct influence with Yazidis.
Why do you ask?
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