Do most aspies like offending people with religious talk?
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I have nothing against Christianity per se, but if you start making extraordinary claims about Nature, based upon falsified ancient concepts, I will call you on it. If you have an issue with this do not bring your thoughts to a debating forum.
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Quoting the bible as fact substantiation is the philosophical equivalent of that kid at school who boasts that his brother told him "fairies are real and he is 12 so it must be true."
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I sincerely doubt many (if any) Aspies "purposely ... slander... religious beliefs".
Religious beliefs are factually wrong, which would be enough to try to dissuade folks from them. But many religious-political intersection stories, particularly in the US, involve a level of craziness repulsive to my sensibilities. I make that known, particularly given that articulating and debating opinions is one of the main functions of political forums (like PPR).
'religious beliefs are factually wrong'
You do?.. understand friend that all rationality is based on human emotions..
And everything you are saying 'right' now..is only viewed by what you may 'think' is you.. after your emotions cued it...
So in other words nothing you say Is reality..
And ergo..none of it is factual....
ALL is illusion...
So religion is the only truth..that is true...
Think about that one for a few minutes...
if you will or care 'too'..
If you figure it out..
you understand god...
if not you do not understand god..
it's as simple as that...
And yah.. many people here do not understand GOD...
But considering that alexithymia..a disconnect between emotion and language is present in about
85% of autism spectrum disorders..that are professionally diagnosed..that is no surprise at all..
As without that connection it is extremely difficult to understand what GOD is...
As the path there is not mechanical cognition..it is completely social or empathic cognition...
And THIS IS an area that people on the spectrum do have great deficits in ....as per research that currently exists..on this empathy and social cognition issue...
So it is always an extremely interesting challenge for me to spark the real spark of light that IS gOD for anyone here..but what can i say..i like challenges..
NO problem with that in real life at all..as the light of GOD..or whatever one likes to call the essence of the one that is all..is unmistakable for one who walks in it...AND in effect IS THAT LIGHT OF WHA T most westerners describe as GOD..Christ..or the LIGHT..of LOVE..that is LIGHT...
In real life for people who are not currently experiencing challenges with cognitive empathy..and or emotional empathy..IT IS THE MOST CONTAGIOUS THING IN THE WORLD..THAT IS THE LIGHT OF GOD...
BUT AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO 'KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO'..WHICH IS BASICALLY THOSE WHO ARE NOT blessed with that light..
One can only hope or pray..that one day they too..will walk in this eternally now BLISS THAT IS THE LIGHT OF WHAT MOST PEOPLE CALL GOD....
IT'S REAL..IT'S A FORCE..AND IT'S A POWER THAT ONE CAN ACTUALLY FEEL..AND MEASURE IN THEIR LIFE..
BUT WITHOUT IT..the experience of it that is...it simply does not exist...
And yah..that's the saddest part of it 'all' to me....
There have been times i would have given my life to share that with other people...
But nah..i have come to the conclusion..that there are some people..that simply can not share it..for whatever reason..MAYBE karma..only 'GOD' 'knows' that...
Yeah, I know many (more or less) neurotypical philosophers. None of them would buy the "since rationality is emotional, there are no facts ... but GOD" leap, as it makes no sense whatsoever.
Cognitive, not affective, empathy is effected in Aspergers, btw.
Dude it was just a metaphor..ergo the thinking part about what i said..
Seriously not something to take literally friend....
Well technically empathy cannot be effectED as it is affect not effect..
And while 'some' folks with Asperger's syndrome may not have serious issues with affective empathy the evidence is clear in the research that has been done on Alexithymia and brain scans with individuals who do have Asperger's syndrome and Alexithymia that many OUT OF THAT STUDIED SPECIFIC GROUP do most definitely have problems with affective empathy as it can be seen on the brains scans of those studies..
PLENTY OF FOLKS HAVE REPORTED DIFFICULTY WITH THAT ON THIS WEBSITE..SHOULD COME AT ABSOLUTELY NO SURPRISE IF AND WHEN YOU MAY HAVE PAID ANY ATTENTION TO THAT....
Well here's the deal what is GOD anyway..is.. It IS a Word...just an empty vessel or vehicle that truly describes no essence of feeling that people actually experience and benefit from...
YA KnowNOW that thing that is described as the 6th type of Love beyond acts of service..affirmation..quality time..gifts..and even touch..well yes there is a 6th type Love that is Actually GOD incarnate in human beings who reach that very very special level of 'cosmic' love..
Well ya might say it is not real..but if...ya haven't truly experienced this 6th type of Love one just does not TRULY KNOW GOD AS AN ACTUAL REAL EXPERIENCE OF LIFE..
Well now..what about this thing about affective EMPATHY that YES ACCORDING TO RESEARCH..that EVEN some INDIVIDUALS WITH ASPERGER'S SYNDROME AND ALEXITHYMIA MOST DEFINITELY DO EXPERIENCE PROBLEMS WITH IN REAL LIFE..
WELL IF YA (not necessarily you as an individual) DON'T REALLY FEEL MUCH FRIEND.. IN THIS THING CALLED LIFE...
THERE SIMPLY IS NEITHER A PATHWAY TO FEELINGS OF AFFECTIVE EMPATHY THAT ARE YES DEFINITELY REAL...
AND YES THE SEPARATE PATHWAY FOR MECHANICAL COGNITION THAT ALLOWS one TO ATTEMPT TO MECHANICALLY DISPROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD IS A REAL AND SEPARATE PATH AS INDICATED BY modern SCIENCE THAT REPRESSES THAT EMPATHY PATHWAY THAT IS ALSO ABOUT GOD...
NOR IS THERE THE PATHWAY TO THE 6TH TYPE OF LOVE OR THIS THING DESCRIBED AS GOD THROUGHOUT THE RECORDED HISTORY OF MANKIND...
With only attempts at vehicles and vessels of metaphorical words to describe this REAL THING THAT IS ACTUALLY GOD..YES THE ESSENCE OF THE 6TH TYPE OF LOVE..THAT TRULY CAN BE FELT AND IS A HUGELY POWERFUL TOOL FOR TRUER ESSENCE OF SUCCESS IN LIFE THAT IS SIMPLY LOVING..CARING AND SHARING....that is TRULY HAPPINESS..STUDIED IN RESEARCH TOO BY THE WAY AS THE NUMBER ONE SOURCE OF HAPPINESS FOR HUMAN BEINGS....
Well how do ya know..ya might ask..IT IS BECAUSE I EXPERIENCE THIS THING CALLED GOD 24/7 NOW ETERNALLY IN THE KNOW..
WELL HOW DA YA KNOW I'M TELLING THE TRUTH..
YOU DON'T HAVE TO...IF YA DON'T WANT THE BLISS OF GOD 24/7 IN THE ETERNITY OF NOW..YA AIN'T GOT TO ASK ABOUT IT..AN YA AIN'T GOT TO GET..IT THAT'S ALL UP TO YOU...
But considering this thing called the 6th LOVE THAT IS GOD IS BETTER THAN ANY HUMAN ORGASM..
It seriously ain't a bad way to live...
Considering there ain't NO anti-depressant pill..alcohol.. or stimulant required to get there...
All you have to do is keep believing in this higher POWER that is the 6th LOVE THAT IS GOD..AND WHO KNOWS SOONER OR LATER YOU COULD BE EXPERIENCING A GOD ORGASM FRIGGING ALL THE TIME 2..
AND no.. other than the unusual and colorful way i just described 'IT'.. yah that thing called GOD..It's really True too..
And no seriously i don't think there is anyway you could understand the essence of what i am saying here..but I'm pretty sure that at least one or two folks in the listening audience will not have any problem with it at all...
Even my marriage counselor fully understands this stuff...
But yah..she believes in the 6th type of LOVE that is GOD too..It's too hard to miss It for those who most definitely can discern it and yes..there is a substantial amount of cognitive empathy required to discern it as well...
And no i'm not at expecting to change your mind on anything about it..as far as i can discern that is a lost cause now for you..but again..there are folks in the listening audience that will at least likely find this amusing who do truly understand what this 6th type of LOVE that is GOD truly IS in real life..not some online fantasy and all of that....
And yes all of this is just my opinion..toss in the sea as a grain of salt if you like..
But even if ya do that it is still part of GOD..
The grain of sand that is..too smart to question the Existence of GOD...
And yes that is just another metaphor friend not to be taken literally..to simply clarify and verify communication here per that
cognitive empathy thingy you were talking about...
And to be clear several people have suggested i not use complicated metaphors an an aspeger's PPR forum..but seriously all philosophy is is metaphors...
And seriously it is absolutely impossible to describe anything about God without using complicated metaphors and big long stories..to even attempt to explain this real thing called gOD to someone who like never has experienced the real part of it..that is within a person's being..
Not some magic man in the sky.....that's completely ridiculous..and likely folks that only think literally could even come to such a conclusion.....
Yeah.. i suspect that many fundie Christians are somewhere on the broader autism phenotype with problems fully understanding metaphors and all of that..
It took me literally decades to get much better at it....
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Last edited by aghogday on 31 Dec 2013, 4:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Well if Jesus could come back in real life..as historical evidence does point out that it is more than likely he is more along the lines of a Buddhist Monk ..than some high brow dude wanting to be worshipped and all of that...
He would probably take great offense as to why everyone is worshipping some made up flesh of a man instead of seeking the bliss that is potentially inside of them..that their dog already enjoys basking out in the afternoon sun...
And on top of that..oh my GOD he would probably say 'why the f**k did all those folks represent me as a frigging girl with a beard what's up with all of that'...
'Do ya really think any of those big dudes at the money changer table would have took me serious if i couldn't stand my ground as an equal patriarch with them and all of that'...
Well Jesus per the history that exists was more than likely a Zealot and it ain't often that a Zealot comes across as a pansy if ya get my drift..
Babybird friend...
Hehe..i enjoyed your dogs ass..Jesus would probably laugh too.. i read somewhere he has a good sense of humor especially jokes about prostitutes and all of that ..even too..as he certainly did not likely have anything against that either in the real life..back in those ancient days..of doing whatever to make it in life..with subsistence and all of that..
Oops getting to deep here in dog s**t now..will see ya next year baby bird...
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Or live is evil
or devil is lived
or desserts is stressed..
Oh my GoD ain't IT clear by NOW GOD is just a joke..
Didn't i already say GOD is a laugh anyway..
Well anyhow happy New year to ya..Natural Plastic..
And have another New Year's Eve chuckle with 'GOD'...
:)
Or the the All that IS certainly funny at times....
Or ironic..or YES
EVen
Whateva.. i mean ever...
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I do that sometimes, and i do get a bit of satisfaction from it (same with political arguments). I actually find it difficult not to mock it as it so illogical and because of the troubles and suffering it has caused in the past (and still does). I don't see much wrong in doing that, as people often make fun of my political standpoint and it doesn't overly bother me
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Yes.
Its a diagnostic trait of aspergers- the uncontrollable urge to be blasphemous! Kinda like Tourette's Syndrome. Only under meds do aspies act pious and respectful.
In contrast NTs NEVER say upsetting things about other people's religous beliefs, political beliefs, nor any other creeds.
To change the subject:
that Christ on the dog's backside has rather long arms-like an ape!
I went through a phase where I enjoyed doing this too. I stopped a while ago, but at one point I loved trolling using this technique. I personally think it does no good now but in the past I would do this all the time.
Sometimes I would use mean jokes or make it obvious I had a scholarly justified hatred of this or that belief.
It's not that bad on here, but you can tell some people are trying to troll people with certain beliefs without technically breaking the guidelines.
Do any of you guys do this or have noticed this on here? Be honest.

I think NTs sometimes do this in their minds; the difference is that they have social filters. But I am tolerant of all religions.
Wow. I just realized that Jesus was superimposed on the ass.
Yeah..all i saw at first was a face..a well tanned one at that..with a 70's rock and roller hair do..with a big nose..
It took me a while to see the alabasterd bathrobe....
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