Here's the REAL question for GOP[h]ers...

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That makes about 6 billion dead.

I'm not a pacifist, but I will not join you because I don't believe religious persecution in the US will help.

Yep, there's no troll like an old troll.

Yeah, we have no firearms regulation whatsoever here in the US of A.
Why just last night I ordered one of these on Amazon.



Should be here next week and I'm gonna KILL KILL KILL!! !

'Murrica, f*k yeah!

Are you against the Separation of Church and State?

Do you favor the American State being overthrown by some One True Religion?

Should our Constitution and form of government be replaced by some Prayer Book?

Do you support the use of force and violence to overthrow the Government, and to force the conversion or death of the population?

Islam does.

So all Muslims in this country are criminals according to you simply because they are muslim? Even though we have freedom of religion in this country? Also your last bit about 'join us or die' doesn't even make sense...what the U.S ought to go around and kill anyone who's not an American? Is that what you suggest or do you mean rounding up people in this country that don't fit the mold of a typical american and having them die?

You really think Isis is going to over-throw this country and take control, where is it going to get large enough of an army? They are dangerous but they are not near enough organized to overthrow this country and take it over. Also of course Islamic extremists aren't going to have respect for separation of state and church, but it would also seem certain right wing christian fundamentalist groups also don't respect separation of church and state....and they actually have some amount of political power here. I don't really see the Muslim community in the U.S pushing for their religion/morality to be legislated into our laws here....can't say the same of the christian fundies. At this point ISIS seems more like an international threat that is hardly solely focused on 'america' than a group with political power to change our laws from the inside.

There is no way to know how many people would have died had that nuke not been dropped, its possible it did save lives...its possible it didn't. Regardless I still thing targeting an area that was known to be largely civilian was very distasteful and will never probably be able to say 'yeah I really entirely support what happened that day'. But my point was we can discuss what attacks killed more people or were worse all day....but that not really relevent. 9-11 killed more people than a mass shooting not committed by a muslim? So somehow that means its ok to generalize all muslims but not all in other groups that have produced mass killers just because more people died in 9-11? By that logic all americans should be generalized as murderers because Hiroshima killed more people than 9-11.

Perhaps my point was lost though with how passionate people are about support of the Hiroshima bombing...and anger at any criticism of said bombing.

We have the TSA, pat downs, body searches, MRI body scans, bomb swipes on luggage, database "terrorist" searches on our names .. all because of Muslims.

We live in fear now because of Muslims.

We lost our privacy because of Muslims.

Thenjapanese civilians were strapping themselves with bombs and running into troops including the children since Americans were weak and would pick up and try to help the kids. They also did mass suicides as us troops approached their cities. Their God told them to fight to the death and was ready to issue weapons to them all. Their pilots would ram perfectly good plans into ships in a in logical attempt to sink them only at the end realizing those nightly trained fighter posits would be far more useful stopping bombers. They would either suicide charge troops or kill themselves after ran out of ammo. There's a reason why we didn't capture many Japanese POWs.

Also were still using Purple Hearts mass produced for the invasion of Japan. We would have lost millions they'd fought to the last baby rather then dishonor themselves and surrender to sub humans. This is the same nation where you killed yourself for failure. No 2nd chance nope you failed and dishonored yourself, family and God so cut your stomach open and have your head cut off.

The cities chosen were for military bases which is where the bombs were dropped. It's likely if we hadn't they'll might not been a Japan after so many were killed and Russia had its way with what remained. I don't think you quite understand what it would be like to strongly believe in a God and oh this God is a real person who tells you what do do not via a book, but actually tells you. I imagine is a very similar situation in North Korea right now.

A lot of Muslims believe they must convert or kill all non Muslims. They will not settle for a non 100% Muslim planet. It might take them 100s or 1000s of years but they are out producing us and willing to play the long game. Go over to some Middle East nation and see how long you last til your stoned to death for not wearing a rob or because you made some guy rape you. They don't leave that mindset when they come here. There been a few known cases of honor killings, then they also wall themselves off and teach their kids beheadings.

There's good ones yep. They go on tv telling us that most the schools over their teach convert or die, kill the infidels. They want to change it and gosh I hope they can but they are the few in culture dominated by relgious extremists who have twisted and defied their holy book to use it to justify their evil acts. Jihad is the war inside yourself good against evil. It's a book of peace. I dont know what to do about it we can't force change on Muslims they have to change themselves but so far they'd rather just stay how they are and kill anyone who says otherwise.

One thing is for sure I don't want more and more of them coming here and not changing. What happens when they get to be 60% of the population and use congress to enact their beliefs means the left thinks we should be a democracy ruled by the slight majority, so what happens when they become that slight majority ? Which it will happen. They have 5-10 kids while most Americans have 1-2. Not hard to see where that's going. Scientists are saying we are nearing unsalvageable population growth and some European nations are already there. That means not making enough people to sustain a nation for the long run ie eventually ceasing to exist like other populations have in the past. Western civilization just isn't reproducing enough.

Just happy I won't be alive in the distant future where Islam is the rule of the world. I certainly don't want to help speed it up any by allowing mass immigration and allowing them to build Muslim only communities like they've done in a few nations.

Really liked that Canada judge who sentenced a family ,who tried to kill their daughter, learning and adapting to Canadian culture.

Extremists specifically, as most muslims did not actually play a role in that. Also I am not sure every increased security measure is specifically only related to Islamic terrorist incidents.

None of that makes me feel like it is ok to condone discrimination and limiting of rights of citizens who happen to be muslims. Most muslims aren't trying to create a 100% muslim world, via extremism that is simply not the case. Also I don't support theocracies, I think infusing religion with law is a very harmful and dangerous path regardless of the religion.

Also freedom of religion is in the constitution, as are the constitutional rights even if groups of muslims wanted to build communities that refuse to allow constitutional rights for its citizens and impose religious law that would be illegal...and they'd still be subject to the same law/legal system as everyone else. But also it shouldn't just be assumed that is what all Muslim migrants would even want, does it occur to anyone that maybe a lot of them aren't so fond of the system in their respective countries either? and that factors into some of the migration.

So you e gone over to the Middle East and polled all Muslims. If not there no way you know what most Muslims want.

So your just saying the left's political correctness line.

They don't care and do so anyways. Look around do you see them removing their burkas or still wearin them. I saw a lot a bunch of them while I worked at the college. They always accompanied by their husband and wearing burkas because they'll still treated as property. If they were against how it's like there then they wouldn't still follow the laws from there when here but they do.

I'm not for removing anyone's rights. There's no right to uncontrolled mass immigration. There's no right to immigration at all.

They want to live here then they need to become Americans not Iraqis who love her e but Americans and live by our laws and speak our language. If I moved to Germany I'd learn German and adapt to their laws and cultural. If I wanted to be a citizen I wouldn't build a little USA and wave old glory around. We're a united nation not a bunch of closed off cultures and religions. I don't want to be like the hollow Holy Roman Empire.

I never said I've gone there, and only suggested for many of them that migrate out of the region unhappiness with the system could certainly factor in. I don't see what is oh so inappropriately politically correct about suggesting Muslims in general don't all despise Americans or anyone who isn't muslim and want to kill us all. Especially when plenty of them openly disagree with that kind of thing and condemn the extremism, especially in the face of the renewed discrimination like they had to face after 9-11 as well...it seems people now just scream political correctness at anything that contradicts their blanket generalizations about an entire group of people.

Also for someone who criticizes someone for theorizing on different reasons muslims might immigrate here, you sure do seem to think yourself an expert on what goes on in every muslims head. Also not sure where you get that muslims living in this country don't speak the language or follow our laws in my observation it seems they do, there is a considerable population of muslims in Denver and riding the bus I sometimes observe them doing things like paying bus fare and riding the bus without causing a disturbance just like everyone else for instance. As I said there are lots of muslim citizens and to generalize them all as dangerous would be terrorists and limit their rights based on that is ridiculous.

Yep....the vast majority of Muslims want to stay alive. They don't believe in the 72 or 77 Virgins nonsense. Unless there's a screw loose somewhere, they don't believe in extremism/radicalism in the Jihadi sense. They want to stay alive, marry, raise kids, etc., just like almost all Americans.

I know a Muslim who is a Probation Officer Supervisor.

They might adhere to some aspects of their previous culture (from whatever country they or their parents came from)--but most of them embrace American culture as well.

I think I'd really rather ask the reciprocal question.

Is this a sign of California gun laws keeping people safe? Would this couple have had nearly as much of a clear run if they would have tried something like this in Texas?

Of course not!

Everyone in Texas carries a gun and someone would have shot the terrorist before they could do any harm.[/gun nut fantasy]