25 Feb 2016, 5:28 pm
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
This is about as dishonest as gets to liken Nazi propaganda to what I said
so dishonest in fact that i'm actually backing up my position! with actual data! good thing we've got truthseekers such as yourself that valiantly hold everything in and don't divulge it so the rest of us can just rely on you instead. 
You're a BS artist. This notion that we have to choose between self-righteous PC culture and righwing identity politics is a false dichotomy.
Politics is not about morality, it's about power. Political correctness is nothing more than a modern incarnation of the holier than thou complex. PC people try to assert moral superiority and ideological purity as a means of jockeying for status.If you stop taking American culture and politics and face value and take a closer look at what people actually *do*, you might learn something and be taken seriously for once!
25 Feb 2016, 5:28 pm
Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
This is about as dishonest as gets to liken Nazi propaganda to what I said
so dishonest in fact that i'm actually backing up my position! with actual data! good thing we've got truthseekers such as yourself that valiantly hold everything in and don't divulge it so the rest of us can just rely on you instead. 
okay man, even in Fugu-world do you think this whole argument is going well for you? Like I said man, do you want an out or something? Why are you doing this?
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25 Feb 2016, 5:29 pm
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25 Feb 2016, 5:30 pm
Fugu wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Fugu wrote:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140226142708/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism
"Cultural Bolshevism, or in German Kulturbolschewismus,[1] was a term widely used during the Third Reich by critics who denounced modernism in the arts, particularly when seeking to discredit more nihilistic forms of expression. As many modernists embraced Marxism while rejecting traditional values, Cultural Bolshevism and the similarly pejorative term "Cultural Marxism" also took on political overtones. "
so why are you rabbiting nazi propoganda Jacoby?
"Cultural Bolshevism, or in German Kulturbolschewismus,[1] was a term widely used during the Third Reich by critics who denounced modernism in the arts, particularly when seeking to discredit more nihilistic forms of expression. As many modernists embraced Marxism while rejecting traditional values, Cultural Bolshevism and the similarly pejorative term "Cultural Marxism" also took on political overtones. "
so why are you rabbiting nazi propoganda Jacoby?
What a disingenuous load of old trousers.
Cultural Marxism as a concept has a valid modern academic definition and application as I'm sure you're well aware.
"A 20th-century conspiracy theory regards the Frankfurt School as the origin of a contemporary movement in the political left to destroy western culture, referred to as "Cultural Marxism" by theory proponents. It advocates the idea that multiculturalism and political correctness are products of critical theory, which originated with the Frankfurt School. The theory is associated with American religious paleoconservatives such as William S. Lind, Pat Buchanan and Paul Weyrich, and has received support from the Free Congress Foundation."
Cultural marxism isn't about PC, it's just been latched onto by the american right and used to smear whoever they disagree with.
you're grasping at anything you can grasp athere's what that article on Wikipedia looked like for years before the censorship brigade made it their mission to wipe out dissent
https://web.archive.org/web/20140519194 ... al_Marxism
25 Feb 2016, 5:35 pm
AR15000 wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
This is about as dishonest as gets to liken Nazi propaganda to what I said
so dishonest in fact that i'm actually backing up my position! with actual data! good thing we've got truthseekers such as yourself that valiantly hold everything in and don't divulge it so the rest of us can just rely on you instead. You're a BS artist. This notion that we have to choose between self-righteous PC culture and righwing identity politics is a false dichotomy.
Politics is not about morality, it's about power. Political correctness is nothing more than a modern incarnation of the holier than thou complex. PC people try to assert moral superiority and ideological purity as a means of jockeying for status.If you stop taking American culture and politics and face value and take a closer look at what people actually *do*, you might learn something and be taken seriously for once!
25 Feb 2016, 5:41 pm
25 Feb 2016, 5:41 pm
Fugu wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Fugu wrote:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140226142708/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism
"Cultural Bolshevism, or in German Kulturbolschewismus,[1] was a term widely used during the Third Reich by critics who denounced modernism in the arts, particularly when seeking to discredit more nihilistic forms of expression. As many modernists embraced Marxism while rejecting traditional values, Cultural Bolshevism and the similarly pejorative term "Cultural Marxism" also took on political overtones. "
so why are you rabbiting nazi propoganda Jacoby?
"Cultural Bolshevism, or in German Kulturbolschewismus,[1] was a term widely used during the Third Reich by critics who denounced modernism in the arts, particularly when seeking to discredit more nihilistic forms of expression. As many modernists embraced Marxism while rejecting traditional values, Cultural Bolshevism and the similarly pejorative term "Cultural Marxism" also took on political overtones. "
so why are you rabbiting nazi propoganda Jacoby?
What a disingenuous load of old trousers.
Cultural Marxism as a concept has a valid modern academic definition and application as I'm sure you're well aware.
"A 20th-century conspiracy theory regards the Frankfurt School as the origin of a contemporary movement in the political left to destroy western culture, referred to as "Cultural Marxism" by theory proponents. It advocates the idea that multiculturalism and political correctness are products of critical theory, which originated with the Frankfurt School. The theory is associated with American religious paleoconservatives such as William S. Lind, Pat Buchanan and Paul Weyrich, and has received support from the Free Congress Foundation."
Cultural marxism isn't about PC, it's just been latched onto by the american right and used to smear whoever they disagree with.
"Leftist sources often dismiss cultural Marxism not by using factual arguments but instead by labeling it a "conspiracy theory". This can be seen as a form of guilt by association instead of a factual argument. Also, Kevin MacDonald has rejected an overarching conspiracy similar to The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (see the article Jewish group evolutionary strategy).
The Institute for Social Research in Frankfurt was/is no secret conspiracy group but open regarding its intents and had/has many similarities to modern think thanks/"policy institutes" which openly advocate certain ideas/ideologies and try to influence and shape public discourse, culture, and society."
Sound familiar?
But kudos for doubling down like a good little SJW. At least you're ideologically consistent.
Quote:
sorry that you think it's being 'holier than thou' to treat people with respect. Cultural marxism is the warcry of the regressives that can't figure out why it's not ok to treat people like s**t.
From the person throwing around spurious accusations of Nazism by association.
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25 Feb 2016, 5:43 pm
Fugu wrote:
AR15000 wrote:
Fugu wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
This is about as dishonest as gets to liken Nazi propaganda to what I said
so dishonest in fact that i'm actually backing up my position! with actual data! good thing we've got truthseekers such as yourself that valiantly hold everything in and don't divulge it so the rest of us can just rely on you instead. You're a BS artist. This notion that we have to choose between self-righteous PC culture and righwing identity politics is a false dichotomy.
Politics is not about morality, it's about power. Political correctness is nothing more than a modern incarnation of the holier than thou complex. PC people try to assert moral superiority and ideological purity as a means of jockeying for status.If you stop taking American culture and politics and face value and take a closer look at what people actually *do*, you might learn something and be taken seriously for once!
but fugu, you are the regressive
25 Feb 2016, 5:52 pm
Jacoby wrote:
Fugu wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Fugu wrote:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140226142708/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism
"Cultural Bolshevism, or in German Kulturbolschewismus,[1] was a term widely used during the Third Reich by critics who denounced modernism in the arts, particularly when seeking to discredit more nihilistic forms of expression. As many modernists embraced Marxism while rejecting traditional values, Cultural Bolshevism and the similarly pejorative term "Cultural Marxism" also took on political overtones. "
so why are you rabbiting nazi propoganda Jacoby?
"Cultural Bolshevism, or in German Kulturbolschewismus,[1] was a term widely used during the Third Reich by critics who denounced modernism in the arts, particularly when seeking to discredit more nihilistic forms of expression. As many modernists embraced Marxism while rejecting traditional values, Cultural Bolshevism and the similarly pejorative term "Cultural Marxism" also took on political overtones. "
so why are you rabbiting nazi propoganda Jacoby?
What a disingenuous load of old trousers.
Cultural Marxism as a concept has a valid modern academic definition and application as I'm sure you're well aware.
"A 20th-century conspiracy theory regards the Frankfurt School as the origin of a contemporary movement in the political left to destroy western culture, referred to as "Cultural Marxism" by theory proponents. It advocates the idea that multiculturalism and political correctness are products of critical theory, which originated with the Frankfurt School. The theory is associated with American religious paleoconservatives such as William S. Lind, Pat Buchanan and Paul Weyrich, and has received support from the Free Congress Foundation."
Cultural marxism isn't about PC, it's just been latched onto by the american right and used to smear whoever they disagree with.
you're grasping at anything you can grasp athere's what that article on Wikipedia looked like for years before the censorship brigade made it their mission to wipe out dissent
https://web.archive.org/web/20140519194 ... al_Marxism
how about this essay from Gary North(who wrote a book on Marx) on how it's not marxist at all http://www.garynorth.com/public/12623.cfm
25 Feb 2016, 5:59 pm
25 Feb 2016, 6:04 pm
adifferentname wrote:
Fugu wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Fugu wrote:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140226142708/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism
"Cultural Bolshevism, or in German Kulturbolschewismus,[1] was a term widely used during the Third Reich by critics who denounced modernism in the arts, particularly when seeking to discredit more nihilistic forms of expression. As many modernists embraced Marxism while rejecting traditional values, Cultural Bolshevism and the similarly pejorative term "Cultural Marxism" also took on political overtones. "
so why are you rabbiting nazi propoganda Jacoby?
"Cultural Bolshevism, or in German Kulturbolschewismus,[1] was a term widely used during the Third Reich by critics who denounced modernism in the arts, particularly when seeking to discredit more nihilistic forms of expression. As many modernists embraced Marxism while rejecting traditional values, Cultural Bolshevism and the similarly pejorative term "Cultural Marxism" also took on political overtones. "
so why are you rabbiting nazi propoganda Jacoby?
What a disingenuous load of old trousers.
Cultural Marxism as a concept has a valid modern academic definition and application as I'm sure you're well aware.
"A 20th-century conspiracy theory regards the Frankfurt School as the origin of a contemporary movement in the political left to destroy western culture, referred to as "Cultural Marxism" by theory proponents. It advocates the idea that multiculturalism and political correctness are products of critical theory, which originated with the Frankfurt School. The theory is associated with American religious paleoconservatives such as William S. Lind, Pat Buchanan and Paul Weyrich, and has received support from the Free Congress Foundation."
Cultural marxism isn't about PC, it's just been latched onto by the american right and used to smear whoever they disagree with.
"Leftist sources often dismiss cultural Marxism not by using factual arguments but instead by labeling it a "conspiracy theory". This can be seen as a form of guilt by association instead of a factual argument. Also, Kevin MacDonald has rejected an overarching conspiracy similar to The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (see the article Jewish group evolutionary strategy).
The Institute for Social Research in Frankfurt was/is no secret conspiracy group but open regarding its intents and had/has many similarities to modern think thanks/"policy institutes" which openly advocate certain ideas/ideologies and try to influence and shape public discourse, culture, and society."
Sound familiar?
But kudos for doubling down like a good little SJW. At least you're ideologically consistent.
Quote:
sorry that you think it's being 'holier than thou' to treat people with respect. Cultural marxism is the warcry of the regressives that can't figure out why it's not ok to treat people like s**t.
From the person throwing around spurious accusations of Nazism by association.
whatever you're quoting from sounds biased, why should I argue that when you're obviously going to move the goalposts.
25 Feb 2016, 6:17 pm
25 Feb 2016, 6:17 pm
AspE wrote:
Sorry if you think we are as*holes for pointing out that you're being as*holes.
Succinct, true, and hilarious!
25 Feb 2016, 6:21 pm
25 Feb 2016, 7:09 pm
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