Please stop with the excess hatred and anger of Trump

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People that cry about how disrespectful and petty Trump don't seem to understand that they themselves are highly disrespectful and petty to our POTUS. It's a two way street!

Trump has a willingness to talk and listen to anyone, he's a deal maker and I think it would be wise for Democrats to try to forge a productive relationship with him since then he would be more inclined to heed their concerns than if they had a working relationship as opposed to histrionics and threats of obstructionism. Whining about how Obama was treated ignores Obama's unwillingness to compromise and work across the aisle, he was forced to compromise with the center flank of his party but he didn't need or care much about GOP input when Democrats had a super majority.

I was never as personally disrespectful of Obama as so many left wing partisans are now with Trump, they can't stop themselves from saying the most awful disgusting things about him, his immigrant wife, even his 10 year old son! People that made nasty comments about Barack, Michelle, or his children aren't much better and that's not something I ever participated in since there is so many legitimate things you can say about the guy and his presidency without making it personal. When your opponent acts like this it doesn't make you want to heed their argument, it makes you want to crush it.

It depends on what makes someone a liar. I'm pretty strict. If you repeatedly say you will do something specific, measurable, and timely, and then repeatedly don't, that make you a liar in my book.

Also, if someone constantly contradicts the plain meaning of things they have said previously, I'll count them among the liars. If you have the right to change the meaning of what you said at any time, then what you say has no meaning at all.

So, by my definition, I only had to watch the news for a couple of days to satisfy my criteria. Trump's an unrepentant and skillful liar.

If you don't trust the media in the US, use the internet and read news in other contries from all over the world. What I mean is that if most of the world agrees on something to be true, then it's more likely that this actually is the truth.

Most of the world's media is owned and controlled by just a handful of multinational corporations

gee, I don't know...you give them 4 years to do his job because he's president?

Source? Most viewers or highest stock value?

I meant, how you would take the chance by voting for him. I would never trust a narcissist and a pathologically liar.

That sounds quite paranoid actually, or at least very distrusting.

the media consolidation over the last 30 years has been astounding, back in 1983 90% of the media was controlled over 50+ companies but now it's down to 6.

That is legitimately scary. We had better not let it get down to five. Six we can manage, five no way.

Edit: sorry, that was super vague. What I mean is, it's Human Resources best practices not to put a person in charge of more than five people. People do, but everybody knows it's not the best idea, because people can't manage more than five other people. Fortunately, lots of people don't need that much management, but that's another issue. The way that this relates to a global conspiracy, is that it's conceivable that one person could direct five organizations. They probably wouldn't have much more success than any other manager, but it does create more opportunities for a real conspiracy, the fewer media Outlets we have. I don't believe we're there now, but I don't dismiss it as an outlandish concern. Also, look up the CEOs of these media companies and especially check out their personal conflicts. Really often, these guys hate each other, I mean really hate each other. Hard to see them conspiring.

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Do you believe the whole world is conspiring against Trump?

Strange question. He actually implied quite the opposite.

What? Do explain. How did you interpret it that way?

Yes perhaps you aren't gloating about his victory, but there are right wingers who are...its not only people on the left capable of being rude. Me and my boyfriend had to deal with a couple of particularly rude right winger trump supporters when night we were out on a date. And there there was pleanty of disdain and disrespect for obama throughout his presidency on the right....even you had an insulting alternate name for him than president obama due to your dislike. Could it be rudeness exists on both sides.

A very small handful of corrupt people are conspiring against Trump and using their media propaganda mouthpiece to drum it all into the masses minds.

Rudeness definitely exists on both sides. A lot of the attacks on Obama were either false or stupid. No one seemed to care about his actual crimes.