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12 Sep 2017, 10:57 pm

Oh! Of course. After "regards". Duhhh.

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13 Sep 2017, 12:57 am

Perhaps it stands for "don't laugh".

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13 Sep 2017, 2:02 am

envirozentinel wrote:

Perhaps it stands for "don't laugh".

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13 Sep 2017, 5:49 am

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To be fair, even though I don't have a very easy time understanding God much, listening to DL saying that the God / Jesus of the Jews/Christians is some kind of evil, satanic monster that is literally genocidal? That's crossing into very disturbing territory.

Indeed. Truth is dangerous.

All you need do is look at Jesus from a moral point of view to see how evil the Rome created Jesus is. The other Jesus that is shown in scriptures, the esoteric mystic I approve of though.

You do not seem to like the word genocidal that I apply to Yahweh/Jesus.

Is genocide a good thing to do in your view, or was Jesus right to murder so many?

How about substitutionary punishment?

Who is most likely to see justice in punishing the good instead of the evil? A good God or an evil one?

I say an evil God punishes the innocent instead of the guilty.

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13 Sep 2017, 6:32 am

GnosticBishop wrote:

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Do you have anything *positive* to say about it at all? Or is he always evil no matter what?

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13 Sep 2017, 6:57 am

K_Kelly wrote:

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Do you have anything *positive* to say about it at all? Or is he always evil no matter what?

I asked you a question in my last.

Answer it so that I know you understand my position and then I will deal with your questions.

This is a two way street pal.

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14 Sep 2017, 6:20 pm

Jesus sacrificed Himself voluntarily and willingly.

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14 Sep 2017, 8:21 pm

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Indeed. Truth is dangerous.

No it's not. The truth is liberating. It's only dangerous to those who like to live a lie, who practice deceit and self-delusion because they cannot face having to re-examine and re-order their lives in accordance with the truth.

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14 Sep 2017, 8:25 pm

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If not, make your apology, if you can even think that much.

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Nay has nothing to apologise for. Go suck a lemon.

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Are you always this rude? Seriously, whenever I see something written by you it just overflows with anger. Maybe you should take a break from the computer and just see the sunshine for once. It might actually help.

Better still learn what English words mean.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apology

plural apologies
1 a :an admission of error or discourtesy accompanied by an expression of regret ·a public apology
b apologies plural :an expression of regret for not being able to do something ·I won't be able to attend. Please give them my apologies.

2 a :something that is said or written to defend something that other people criticize :defense ·The book is an apology for capitalism.

b :excuse 2a
3 informal :a poor substitute or example :makeshift ·He's a poor apology for a father.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_apologetics

Christian apologetics (Greek: ἀπολογία, "verbal defence, speech in defence")[1] is a field of Christian theology that aims to present historical, reasoned, and evidential bases for Christianity, defending it against objections.

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Yes, okay, you got me there, I was rude too. I do try not to be though. Sometimes it's hard, but the effort has to be made.

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14 Sep 2017, 8:28 pm

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Jesus sacrificed Himself voluntarily and willingly.

Yes, and I often think that perhaps the sacrifice just wasn't worth it. Humanity has learnt precisely nothing from history, and it's reached the stage where I'm almost praying for mankind's extinction via asteroid strike.

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15 Sep 2017, 7:27 am

When you choose to love others it is easier. 1st John chapter4 verse 18 - There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.

Im sorry DL for making fun with the whole lemon thing.

Much Love, Nay :heart: .

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15 Sep 2017, 8:35 am

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15 Sep 2017, 9:26 am

Nay wrote:

Jesus sacrificed Himself voluntarily and willingly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vngjoSb-XrE

Have you even read your bible child?

What are these telling you?

1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

John 6;38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

Now stop your constant lying and go read your bible.

Your lying is giving Christians a bad name and them and you following a genocidal son murdering prick is enough to do that by itself.

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15 Sep 2017, 9:31 am

Lintar wrote:

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Indeed. Truth is dangerous.

I agree, so why do you say it is not dangerous and then show why it is?

That was rhetorical. No reply required. We are on the same page.

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15 Sep 2017, 9:38 am

Lintar wrote:

GnosticBishop wrote:

Lintar wrote:

GnosticBishop wrote:

If not, make your apology, if you can even think that much.

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Nay has nothing to apologise for. Go suck a lemon.

Regards

Yes, okay, you got me there, I was rude too. I do try not to be though. Sometimes it's hard, but the effort has to be made.

The written word often read more harshly than the spoken face to face word.

My poor education and delivery does not help, especially when I an addressing believers who have closed minds and get my temper up. That is not a reference to you. See what I mean. When I read such a statement that is not clarified, I think it for me when it isn't.

I am getting more wordy though and that is helping me not seem so, in your face, thanks to my pushy sales personality.

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15 Sep 2017, 9:46 am

Nay wrote:

Human to human love is easy. We naturally default to cooperation which is love. Love like faith is shown by works and deeds and that default position is our first deed.

Respect has to be earned though and that is the hard part of human to human emotional connection.

Especially in religious matters because religion brings the devil out of us as you might have noted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXk

My devil comes out when literalists idol worshipers like you make unqualified statements that are dogma based instead of bible based.

That is why I answered your other post the way I did.

Do get better and learn what Christianity is all about, and that will make you a Gnostic Christian which is the only good Christian.

We do not idol worship like you do and follow Jesus who says we should seek God, not turn into idol worshipers.

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