What's up with all the conservatives on here?

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I didn’t mean to gang up on you.

It’s a topic that brings out a lot of strong emotions in a lot of people. On both sides of the equation, people often have specific reasons for feeling the way that they do, so it should probably be avoided.

who dont know what democracy is nor what common sense is.

Frankly, people who live in areas with no public transportation NEED cars.

I don't think conservatives or liberals should be scorned for their views----unless they espouse violence, or racism, or things like that. People are liberals and conservatives for many reasons. My brother is a heavy-duty conservative----and I don't bother arguing with him. He's also a racist. But if somebody would call him a Nazi, I would have it out with that person.

I don't think conservatives are Nazis. I don't believe liberals are also into being "politically correct." I'm very much against the "politically-correct" trend these days. Sometimes, people go too far with this.

I don't think liberals want to beat up on conservatives. Nor vice versa. Unless they are total nuts.

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If they had no cars they’d get public transportation, on,y reason there isn’t any is because the average American owns 2-4 cars each.
The car industry is bigger and more corrupt then the nra, spending 100 times more money.
If we limited cars like guns then they’d build more public transportation to compensate just like Europe and Japan.

A lot of people in Eugene bike and walk, so they invested in a public transportation system.

Not everyone lives in a city. I’ve lived in rural areas most of my life.

You must feel as strongly about guns as you do because they are a special interest. I can understand that.

Partisan politics always turns ugly, which why I'm fed up with it. The only people who benefit are the engineers of the "divide and conquer" agenda. I'm sure I don't have to tell you who they are.
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Let's all take a deep breath and remember are commonality. All this vitriol does none of us any good.

We on WrongPlanet have a lot in common.......whether conservative or liberal. Tory or Labour...or whatever.

Problem o have is for anti gun people they aren’t effected either way. Mean 200 people are killed in ,ass shootings out of 300 million, you’re more likely to win the lottery while being attacked by a shark as you get struck by lighting.
Only 2,000 non gang members a year or killed by guns and that’s quite high estimate and most those are by close family or friends.
However 300,000 at min defend their lives and lives of others every year, banning guns would mean a good portion of them would be killed. If just 1/3 are multiple people per case then that’s hundreds of thousands possible deaths ever year way outweighing the gun murders. For gun owners these laws directly negatively effect them. They have everything to lose. Anti gun people have nothing to lose and nothing to gain. It just make them feel safe while doin. Nothing, well not nothing crime will go up, cops and people will die in attempted gun siezers, prison. Population will sore, lawyers will make billions, the black market will sore, gun running will outpace drug running. Just this week 3,000 full auto kits got smuggled into the nation, atf doesn’t know where they all went. China made them and shipped them,over here to sell to gangs. But a California senator smuggled in anti tank rockets for gangs so no surprise, it problably happens more then they report, and with the gun laws pass it some as previous legal law abdijng gun owners go black market for guns, just like prohibition, underground gun stores will pop up, 3rd printing will sore. Apparent people use university public centers to print gun parts including full auto parts.
I’ll be in prison. Or desd, hope desd as I can’t go to prison I’m a weak feminine aspie.ill be eaten alive, rapped and probably slowly killed. Course alternative is I give up all ,u guns worth thousands of dollars never be able to defend my self and eventually get murdered added to the hundred of thousands killed states that anti gunners don’t care about.

Gun laws are horrible they don’t work, the politicians pushing the, openly state they won’t work, cdc says they won’t work, Harvard says they won’t work, fbi says they won’t work, atf says they won’t work, how many scientists, giver,won’t agency’s and politicians does it two esying they won’t work before people accept it?

There might be laws we could pass that might help but the antis don’t care, they push the ones that attack gun owners and do nothing. So all we can do is push back all we can’t with any tool we have, knowing that if it goes too far it might go violent. Imagine bundy ranch with thousands of pro gun people but this time government doesn’t back down w fire fight erupts all over the nation. Most vets and current Tripp’s own guns, thenlaws attack them and their families. They be fighting back. How many cops want to risk their lives for crap pay against form military and cops?
I don’t want violence but how far do you think people will get pushed? If just 1 million gun owners fight back it’ll be bloody

You’re making pro gun arguments. Congrats.

It’s not my special interest it’s my right and only way to defend myself. As it is for a lot of people. Like women who’ve been raped ,abused by their exes who threaten to kill the, and it takes the police 20 mins to arrive, or some areas the police only work m-f 9-5 so if he shows up on weekend she’s just on her own. So she gets a gun, it now the sate wants to tske her gun away and leave her defense. This one lady got raped and beat near death and all 911 could do was listen as the police were closed, and state police were hours away.
Recently a judge in California ruled mag bans illegal as they limit peoples rights to defend themselves and don’t stop mass shootings. This lady shot a guy 6 times and he still beat the s**t out of her. There’s this video that has a guy defending his house agains multiple attacker’s, shoots one shoots another gun runs empty, you hear gun shots, you hear his wife and kids being killed. Judge looked at multiple cases where people had more then 10 and less then 10 and found it negatively effected self defense.

Mate, matey.
Settle petal.
Don't get all emotional like a far left...er...leftie.



I'm not an engineer.
My mother had me tested.



Such as those in the Antifa and neo-Nazi movements.
Extremists.



No, *I* am Spartacus!

To paraphrase Fezzik, I can't help being the best informed and most well reasoned...

If anything I think the pro gun and right need to get emotional, logic doesn’t win, emotional wins. Politicians do what emotional people want not what is logical or makes sense. Probably why we are losing all our rights in the USA.
We need to dress in all black and go burn some cop cars, that seems to get laws passed

For all the extremists roar, saner heads tend to prevail in the long run. Anti-drinking extremists got alcohol banned for 12 years. Anti-communist extremists manage to scare people into ignoring the constitution for a few years, but now we look back on them as bad actors.

I think a correction is coming. People have roughly equal opinions of Trump and AOC. Their base likes them but everyone else tends to hate them. Eventually the center will snap and take the country back.

I think.

Now a days new laws never get overturned.
Guns from China are still banned 30 years later, for reasons that are no longer relevant. Gun laws are never overturned, Russian guns and importing American ww2 guns will never be removed. The patoriot act will never go away. When we lose a right we won’t ever get it back. If prohibition had been passed in the 1980s it’d still be in effect today and for rest of our lives. So we have to fight ever horrible law or it’s over.
The center just adjusts to horrible laws and future generations don’t onow any different. I never seen or been able to own a machine gun. Most think they don’t even exist but 30 years ago most gun owners had one and you could buy one same as any other gun just with atf approval. They swore to fight it swore to remove it, but now it’s the normal.
If they remove the 1st Amendment future kids won’t know what they missing, it’ll be the normal. What was freedom of speech paps? They have kids in high school thinking no one can own a gun, which must be odd then that they try to pass laws banning guns. I think kids are so stupidfied to see the paradox. Public schools are brainwashing kids to be good little liberals. The books rewrite history and the constitution and pass it off as fact.kids take it as fact no questions asked. Everyone’s worried about leftism in college by time kids get their they already rebid liberal extremists.

By time. My generation gets to 80 we probably won’t have any rights left and kids will ask what was the bill of rights and why did we have it?

We have rural areas in Europe, too. Those areas need cars. Sure, if we got a proper public transportation to rural areas too, then banning cars would be okay. However getting proper public transportation to the whole country would be extremely expensive, so either taxes would have to be raised very much or other expenses cut. I think it's better to use all that money to health care and such than to overly expensive public transportation.
Oh and btw, I don't have a car. I did if I could get a license, but I can't 'cause of my disability so I had to move out of home after graduation because there was no and is no public transportation where I'm from. My sister got a car, so she was able to save money and live with our parents. Now she's out and paying off a loan for her own apartment while I'm still stuck paying rent. If I had a car I could look for a cheap place from rural area in the future, but I don't so I have to live in a more expensive area.

Also: here in Finland, people who say "no one needs a car" are considered far left. Are you sure that's not the way you swing?

Cars are something people won’t give up and effects them so I used it as example. A lot of anti gun people support these horrible laws solely because it doesn’t effect them or anyone they know, it’ll hurt other people who they won’t see. Same reason people support horrible acts over seas, don’t care about starving people.

But suggest banning cars or something they use or want and bam they freak out and spout pro gun arguments just with gun replaced with the Thing they want.

Take Hillary she’s super anti gun, but she made a argument for abortion that any right you have to ask permission for isn’t a right. Well Hillary why do you support gun control then? We have to ask permission to use our 2nd amendment right so guess it’s not a right , and that’s what we’ve been saying. It’s quite funny how anti gun people would be pro gun if they owned one or knew someone who owned one.

Like some anti gun democrat reported said look at the situation in Venezuela , this is what happens when only the government has guns, see as long as the military supports him and people can’t have guns he owns the country.
So bam if they hadn’t banned guns from the people the bastard wouldn’t be in power and the military wouldn’t be slaughters the protestors. See he’s pro gun but then he wants to do the same thing here but doesn’t connect the dots.
It’s so frustrating.
Hitler took the guns first too, so did Stalin. Probably would have been harder to gather all the Jews if they’d been armed. Would have made it easier for resistance groups too , as is they had to steal guns from the Germans.

If I got elected as president I’d go after all the things anti gun people care about using the pen and paper.

I do need welfare to live but oh would a Paul Ryan presidency with republican majority just destroy anti gun people. He’d strip away everything they care for, I’d die but might be worth it and at least under him I’d have my guns and could mug people.

Trump is neutral ur come 2024 a democrat will get in and the 1st,2nd, 4th, and 5th rights will be gone. Might even have a good oh uprising. They call it the America fall like the Arab spring. I’ll go fight with the rebels.

Russia and China will flood the rebels with arms, tanks, planes, etc. anything they need to fight the government , they’d love it.i wonder if nato would support the rebels like they did in Arab spring. Would Russian jets bomb USA military targets. Would our government use chemical weapons they have in the rebels?

Mean the one guy who’s running said he’d nuke cities