09 Jan 2020, 10:29 am
09 Jan 2020, 12:26 pm
Antrax wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
Most people is not all people, your country is punishing the poor for being unable to afford healthcare, my country and every other 1st world country does not have that problem. Why should it be up to the individual for being able to afford being looked after if something bad happened to them? Why do you want to punish children if their parents don't have healthcare either? Why do you think it is better to rely on private insurances that aim to pad their bottom dollar to shareholders, where they are incentivised to try and weasel out paying anything if possible?
The thing is that people like you are so high on the concept that America is the best ever, that you don't realize that it has fallen behind everywhere else in looking after its people.
The thing is that people like you are so high on the concept that America is the best ever, that you don't realize that it has fallen behind everywhere else in looking after its people.
That's what kills me.
Just about every other First World country has had this stuff figured out for a long time. Americans are so afraid of the "socialism" boogeyman that they scream at any thought of universal health care or expanded social programs. The longer I live the more I've come to see the U.S. as a sullen, petulant teenager who thinks they know everything, and the "old people" are a bunch of silly fools that can't grasp his superior youthful "wisdom."
Very ironic choice of metaphor because it's the "old people" who says these programs are a bad idea.
Truth is everything comes at a tradeoff. Do you truly believe the rest of the world is so much better than the U.S. Perhaps explain why 20% of the worlds immigrants reside in a country with 5% of the total population?
After all my time on WP, you'd think I'd learn to avoid using metaphors to make a point.
What I meant was, that the U.S. was the "teenager," and places like Europe and the Netherlands were the "old people" that the "teenager" thought that he knew better than.
Anyway, I apologize for not being clear. I've been a bit grumpy lately in regards to society/politics, so I think I'll bow out of this thread until I'm in a better mood.
09 Jan 2020, 12:29 pm
09 Jan 2020, 12:35 pm
09 Jan 2020, 12:41 pm
09 Jan 2020, 1:32 pm
09 Jan 2020, 2:02 pm
09 Jan 2020, 2:41 pm
XFilesGeek wrote:
Antrax wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
Most people is not all people, your country is punishing the poor for being unable to afford healthcare, my country and every other 1st world country does not have that problem. Why should it be up to the individual for being able to afford being looked after if something bad happened to them? Why do you want to punish children if their parents don't have healthcare either? Why do you think it is better to rely on private insurances that aim to pad their bottom dollar to shareholders, where they are incentivised to try and weasel out paying anything if possible?
The thing is that people like you are so high on the concept that America is the best ever, that you don't realize that it has fallen behind everywhere else in looking after its people.
The thing is that people like you are so high on the concept that America is the best ever, that you don't realize that it has fallen behind everywhere else in looking after its people.
That's what kills me.
Just about every other First World country has had this stuff figured out for a long time. Americans are so afraid of the "socialism" boogeyman that they scream at any thought of universal health care or expanded social programs. The longer I live the more I've come to see the U.S. as a sullen, petulant teenager who thinks they know everything, and the "old people" are a bunch of silly fools that can't grasp his superior youthful "wisdom."
Very ironic choice of metaphor because it's the "old people" who says these programs are a bad idea.
Truth is everything comes at a tradeoff. Do you truly believe the rest of the world is so much better than the U.S. Perhaps explain why 20% of the worlds immigrants reside in a country with 5% of the total population?
After all my time on WP, you'd think I'd learn to avoid using metaphors to make a point.
What I meant was, that the U.S. was the "teenager," and places like Europe and the Netherlands were the "old people" that the "teenager" thought that he knew better than.
Anyway, I apologize for not being clear. I've been a bit grumpy lately in regards to society/politics, so I think I'll bow out of this thread until I'm in a better mood.
I knew what you meant, I was pointing out the irony of the younger generation telling the older generation that they are behaving like the younger generation on a global scale. Older generations in Europe, the Netherlands etc. tend to be more consevative too, and having elderly family members under the UK NHS I can tell you they don't think much of it. Just about every young person I know from England praises the NHS.
09 Jan 2020, 3:18 pm
Antrax wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Antrax wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Bradleigh wrote:
Most people is not all people, your country is punishing the poor for being unable to afford healthcare, my country and every other 1st world country does not have that problem. Why should it be up to the individual for being able to afford being looked after if something bad happened to them? Why do you want to punish children if their parents don't have healthcare either? Why do you think it is better to rely on private insurances that aim to pad their bottom dollar to shareholders, where they are incentivised to try and weasel out paying anything if possible?
The thing is that people like you are so high on the concept that America is the best ever, that you don't realize that it has fallen behind everywhere else in looking after its people.
The thing is that people like you are so high on the concept that America is the best ever, that you don't realize that it has fallen behind everywhere else in looking after its people.
That's what kills me.
Just about every other First World country has had this stuff figured out for a long time. Americans are so afraid of the "socialism" boogeyman that they scream at any thought of universal health care or expanded social programs. The longer I live the more I've come to see the U.S. as a sullen, petulant teenager who thinks they know everything, and the "old people" are a bunch of silly fools that can't grasp his superior youthful "wisdom."
Very ironic choice of metaphor because it's the "old people" who says these programs are a bad idea.
Truth is everything comes at a tradeoff. Do you truly believe the rest of the world is so much better than the U.S. Perhaps explain why 20% of the worlds immigrants reside in a country with 5% of the total population?
After all my time on WP, you'd think I'd learn to avoid using metaphors to make a point.
What I meant was, that the U.S. was the "teenager," and places like Europe and the Netherlands were the "old people" that the "teenager" thought that he knew better than.
Anyway, I apologize for not being clear. I've been a bit grumpy lately in regards to society/politics, so I think I'll bow out of this thread until I'm in a better mood.
I knew what you meant, I was pointing out the irony of the younger generation telling the older generation that they are behaving like the younger generation on a global scale. Older generations in Europe, the Netherlands etc. tend to be more consevative too, and having elderly family members under the UK NHS I can tell you they don't think much of it. Just about every young person I know from England praises the NHS.
Ahh, youth (most). Get about 55 years worth of abuse on your form and get back to me.
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