It's almost illegal to have conservative opinions in theWest

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As far as I'm concerned, the current American version of Capitalism is a death cult that is eventually going to collapse.

You can't have a consumer-based economy and then keep suppressing wages to maximize profit. If the economy is to grow, then you can't keep reducing the buying power of the working class. It's fine to say that some people "deserve" to be poor on the basis that they don't posses skills that are in high demand, but if every American that is currently living paycheck-to-paycheck (which is an increasing number of people) suddenly decided to only buy what was strictly necessary for survival, then I wonder how long it's going to take for our country to implode?

Our current economic system is so wonderful that it needs to be bailed-out every ten years, and, if the current pandemic is any indication, it can be knocked over by little more than a stiff breeze. I'm hardly a great economic mastermind, but even my hillbilly self can see that we can't keep kicking the can down the road, and focusing on short term gains over long term stability.

Also, eat the rich.

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And because those with the power ($) to fix it (Billionaires and the politicians they own) won't do it, there's going to be an implosion. Those powers will be happy to prod you all into fighting amongst yourselves, but the best possible outcome would be is if all poor and working class people put politics & race and other divisive nonsense aside and banded together to eat the rich. Maybe not literally lol but tear down their gates and ivory towers, use whatever force is necessary to redistribute their ill gotten gains. Literally everyone working together as one bug Robin Hood movement where the 1% either volunteer their vast wealth as reparations to society, or spend the rest of their lives on the run never again having a comfortable night's sleep.

But what's more likely is poor people fighting poor people for scraps while the 1% carry on unscathed because people are stupid.

I admit that at heart, I'm really more for a system of comparatively smaller competing countries and governments, almost like a form of anarchist/minarchist system. I'm not necessarily a fiscal "purist" myself, I just believe that governments and countries work better on a smaller scope and are less able to be corrupted or become oppressive.

How small exactly? Small enough that your own country would be at war with itself, eventually leading to one state dominating another so that it could exploit it for cheap labor and other resources? There are clear examples of certain places in the world should have sovereign rights but are treated like just a piece that the larger government can use how it wants, like Hong Kong to China. But that is why representation is important, where people can feel like their voices heard and their needs met.

A larger government has more of a power to be able to relocate resources for things like healthcare, that there are standards that keep the people at the bottom from being exploited like sold saw dust instead of flour. I think it a partial ironic effect that when people think in their small groups, that you get corruption and oppressions. To stop that it best to have a government that thinks for many, while remembering that they are all individuals. Not just numbers that would cause a president to want less testing so that there would be on paper smaller numbers of infected and deaths during a pandemic, and just get everything back to being productive without having effectively controlled the pandemic.

There are definitely situations where that is true. It’s good to have local governments trying out different things to see what works so they can all adopt the best practice.

There are some issues though that can’t be tackled locally. The environment is the big one. Pollution doesn’t just stop at a border.

Also, lots of different sets of rules makes it hard to follow the rules, particularly for businesses that operate in lots of different jurisdictions. That’s why we have things like mutual recognition agreements.

Repugnant strategy and the most effective strategy are sometimes two different things. Maybe they don't need to change a thing because enough people or enough people in the right places get what they mean and want to help them. Assuming resistance is futile, and this change is inevitable, having to go through less resistance to get there vs the means of getting there easier being repugnant to them as you say is their choice.

IMHO adding "also" is not sanitizing the but clarifying the problem.

Well, let's get rid of all that horrid, indefensible stuff, and keep the good stuff, such as freedom of speech, press, expression, etc, the arts created in the western world, the extension of rights to women, and racial and sexual minorities now that we've learned the error of our ways, and all the other good stuff.

Isn't that what people are doing by having no patience for people who blatantly act sexist, racist and homophobic or transphobic? Getting rid of all the horrid indefensible stuff that people still defend? There were just massive protests against systematic racism and the president stayed pretty firm that there is no systematic problem.

The government sent out it police to stop people from protesting, pulling the into unmarked vans without saying what they were being arrested for, tried to label anti-fascists as a terrorist group. And there is an argument that it is almost illegal to have conservative opinions?

This might have been sensible politics five years ago, but these days about two-thirds of adult Americans support BLM including 60% of white Americans. Doesn’t seem there’s a significant demographic that would support BLM only if there was an “also” or “too” in there.

Source: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2020/06 ... -movement/

Agreed.

I totally agree Hollywood Guy. The left in America today have gone full blown communist and dissent is not tollerated. Its sad.

Sorry, but that statement is a bit overblown, to say the least.

Um, I would believe this if conservatives weren't the ones throwing liberal demonstrators in rental vans over differences of opinion.

You're engaged in the very same blame shifting the feds told you to engage in. Welcome to your very own deep state.