25 Oct 2020, 5:28 am
League_Girl wrote:
I didn't see anyone in this thread call any party here neo Nazis. 
But I guess the OP can be taken as a doogy whistle for neo Nazi=conservative.
But I guess the OP can be taken as a doogy whistle for neo Nazi=conservative.
It has happened in other threads.
Equating all conservatives with nazis.
"Dog whistling" is alive and "well".
25 Oct 2020, 5:30 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
yeah because them there's "fine folks" who support the president
Welcome to Pennsylvania.
Welcome to Pennsylvania.
Please estimate a percentage of the American population who are neo-nazis.
I am interested, truly.
I appreciate your naivety about this issue....but unfortunately you may have to wake up.
Less patronising.
Fewer ad hominems.
More facts/stats presented, if you please.
25 Oct 2020, 5:36 am
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Not criticisms.
Insults.
Most people who aren't left-leaning would be insulted by being called a Nazi/neo-Nazi/alt.right.
An equivalency might be calling everyone not right-leaning, left-wing fascists.
Oh, my.
25 Oct 2020, 5:38 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Oh No...isn't that just the worst that the whole 'f**k your feelings' crowd is now butthurt that people won't respect their feelings. It brings tears to my eyes just thinking of this terrible injustice.....lol
I'll let you call me a Nazi,
If you let me call you a left-wing fascist.
Deal?
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25 Oct 2020, 5:39 am
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Not criticisms.
Insults.
Most people who aren't left-leaning would be insulted by being called a Nazi/neo-Nazi/alt.right.
An equivalency might be calling everyone not right-leaning, left-wing fascists.
Oh, my.
Well if one hold hand with nazis while declaring they are not a nazi, well for understandable reasons that is questionable.
25 Oct 2020, 5:45 am
funeralxempire wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Oh No...isn't that just the worst that the whole 'f**k your feelings' crowd is now butthurt that people won't respect their feelings.
I just remind them that the facts don't care about their feelings in a smarmy Ben Shapiro voice.
If conservatives hate being conflated with fascists and white nationalists they might want to ensure they stop associating with those types, inviting them to speak at their events and otherwise providing them with platforms. Until then, if it goosesteps like a fascist and Sieg Heils like a fascist someone is gonna call it a fascist.
Are you saying *ALL* conservatives are Nazis?
Are you saying most conservatives are?
I'd agree that some are, but I reckon they would be small in number.
Could you dig up the stats?
Hey, this is FUN!
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25 Oct 2020, 5:48 am
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25 Oct 2020, 5:53 am
Pepe wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Oh No...isn't that just the worst that the whole 'f**k your feelings' crowd is now butthurt that people won't respect their feelings. It brings tears to my eyes just thinking of this terrible injustice.....lol
I'll let you call me a Nazi,
If you let me call you a left-wing fascist.
Deal?
I don't think you are a nazi...and I mean you can call me a left wing extremist if you want, but not left-wing fascist because f**k fascism. Id defend your right to say Biden is trash even though I would totally disagree.
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25 Oct 2020, 6:17 am
Pepe wrote:
Are you saying *ALL* conservatives are Nazis?
Are you saying most conservatives are?
Are you saying most conservatives are?
(Unless you're serious, in which case we both know that's not what I'm saying because I've already explained this many times before.)Never Trumpers are conservatives and as much as some of them were complicit in some of the stage-setting for this issue they appear to largely be working against the problem now. They're still overall disagreeable to me, but it's fair to say they're not fascists or neo-nazis or white nationalists.
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25 Oct 2020, 6:20 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Not criticisms.
Insults.
Most people who aren't left-leaning would be insulted by being called a Nazi/neo-Nazi/alt.right.
An equivalency might be calling everyone not right-leaning, left-wing fascists.
Oh, my.
Well if one hold hand with nazis while declaring they are not a nazi, well for understandable reasons that is questionable.
Apparently we're not allowed to describe those who openly sympathize with fascists or white nationalists as 'fascist sympathizers' because that fact hurts their feelings. Remember when a few of those people tried to have me banned because this issue?
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25 Oct 2020, 6:29 am
funeralxempire wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Not criticisms.
Insults.
Most people who aren't left-leaning would be insulted by being called a Nazi/neo-Nazi/alt.right.
An equivalency might be calling everyone not right-leaning, left-wing fascists.
Oh, my.
Well if one hold hand with nazis while declaring they are not a nazi, well for understandable reasons that is questionable.
Apparently we're not allowed to describe those who openly sympathize with fascists or white nationalists as 'fascist sympathizers' because that fact hurts their feelings. Remember when a few of those people tried to have me banned because this issue?
I just remember their whole 'f**k your feelings' so I love to use that against the right wingers now. LIke' say oh your upset or offended well how about f**k your feelings says this 'liberal'. I called some people not wearing masks at walmart idiots and they looked offended but hey they were the ones not wearing masks putting everyone else in danger. So yeah sure go home and cry about the mean liberal that told you to put your mask on.
25 Oct 2020, 6:30 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Not criticisms.
Insults.
Most people who aren't left-leaning would be insulted by being called a Nazi/neo-Nazi/alt.right.
An equivalency might be calling everyone not right-leaning, left-wing fascists.
Oh, my.
Well if one hold hand with nazis while declaring they are not a nazi, well for understandable reasons that is questionable.
Who is holding a Nazi hand?
Me?
Resolved.
25 Oct 2020, 6:40 am
funeralxempire wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Not criticisms.
Insults.
Most people who aren't left-leaning would be insulted by being called a Nazi/neo-Nazi/alt.right.
An equivalency might be calling everyone not right-leaning, left-wing fascists.
Oh, my.
Well if one hold hand with nazis while declaring they are not a nazi, well for understandable reasons that is questionable.
Apparently we're not allowed to describe those who openly sympathize with fascists or white nationalists as 'fascist sympathizers' because that fact hurts their feelings. Remember when a few of those people tried to have me banned because this issue?
If one is a fascist sympathiser, doesn't that make one a fascist?
BTW,
There are no fascist sympathisers here, would you agree?
So, on this forum, no feelings would be hurt, right?
Where do the hurt feelings come into this particular discussion?
BTW,
I didn't try to ban you.
I simply wanted you to stop equating conservatives with Nazis.
25 Oct 2020, 7:07 am
I see this is going as well as I expected
"You're a Nazi"
"No you are"
When a political ideology meets with that much passing the buck back and forth, there's no point in making arguments as to why nobody should identify with it. Nobody is doing in the first place.
It's like making a thread 'why autistic people shouldn't be bullies'. No they shouldn't. Yes, autistic people are disproportionately negatively affected by bullying. But nobody's going to identify as a bully.
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25 Oct 2020, 7:10 am
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Pepe wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Hollywood_Guy wrote:
Not just "conservatives", but even anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama (at least in America) could be a target.
A target for what?
Criticism from leftists.
Not criticisms.
Insults.
Most people who aren't left-leaning would be insulted by being called a Nazi/neo-Nazi/alt.right.
An equivalency might be calling everyone not right-leaning, left-wing fascists.
Oh, my.
Well if one hold hand with nazis while declaring they are not a nazi, well for understandable reasons that is questionable.
Apparently we're not allowed to describe those who openly sympathize with fascists or white nationalists as 'fascist sympathizers' because that fact hurts their feelings. Remember when a few of those people tried to have me banned because this issue?
If one is a fascist sympathiser, doesn't that make one a fascist?
BTW,
There are no fascist sympathisers here, would you agree?
So, on this forum, no feelings would be hurt, right?
Where do the hurt feelings come into this particular discussion?
BTW,
I didn't try to ban you.
I simply wanted you to stop equating conservatives with Nazis.
There most certainly have been posters here who have openly expressed their support for white nationalist groups. There most certainly have been posters here who have openly expressed their support for fascist ideology.
I have never at any time equated all conservatives or the entire right with fascists or Nazis. You're simply lying when you claim this and this is the last time I will address this matter.
25 Oct 2020, 10:53 am
KT67 wrote:
I see this is going as well as I expected
"You're a Nazi"
"No you are"
When a political ideology meets with that much passing the buck back and forth, there's no point in making arguments as to why nobody should identify with it. Nobody is doing in the first place.
It's like making a thread 'why autistic people shouldn't be bullies'. No they shouldn't. Yes, autistic people are disproportionately negatively affected by bullying. But nobody's going to identify as a bully.
"You're a Nazi"
"No you are"
When a political ideology meets with that much passing the buck back and forth, there's no point in making arguments as to why nobody should identify with it. Nobody is doing in the first place.
It's like making a thread 'why autistic people shouldn't be bullies'. No they shouldn't. Yes, autistic people are disproportionately negatively affected by bullying. But nobody's going to identify as a bully.
Just imagine if this thread was about bullies and why autistic people shouldn't be bullies, a user comes in this thread taking offense to being called a bully even though no one ever actually called them one. This is how strange it is and why they make themselves look guilty. Are you a bully?
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