Another actress canceled by Disney

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Yes, I seem to remember people fleeing Europe to escape that type of religious persecution. The United States of America represented a nation whose ideal did away with state religions to give people a place to live without that tyranny.

I am sorry, but what exactly are you arguing for?

I liked what he said about the dangers of using analogies for comparisons. That is so true. I know for a fact when people use them with me, they make themselves look stupid to me because it makes me think they see it as bad as that or see that as the same and I think "wow that person is so dumb."

We all gotta be careful when we use analogies. I think lot of people don't use them right anyway. I used to think I was bad at understanding them and then I realized it's because people don't use them right with me. my mom is one of the few people who knows how to actually use them and it makes it so easy for me to understand.

When you compare anything to something bad, it will make people angry because they will then think you are trivializing the issue but I think is "if you see that as bad, you are so ignorant and delusional" so hence I end up thinking you are an idiot and so uneducated. Then I am mostly likely to end the conversation with them because I think they are stupid and I am wasting my time with them. Not because of a different view or a different opinion.

Yes, no one is going to push conservatives into a ghetto, no one is going to make them wear some sort of badge to indicate they are conservative, no one is going to take away their homes and stuff, and no one is going to push them into concentration camps. If this is what she thinks, I pity her and she should go see a specialist to help her with her paranoid thinking because this can't be healthy. But yet this is "normal?"

Disney had the right to fire Gina Carano and Ben Shapiro had the right to hire her.

The rumors I have heard (from several sources) was that this was a "planned" firing, given a "difference of opinion" regarding the direction "Star Wars" productions should go between Jon Favreau (who produces "The Mandalorian" and was in the middle of preparing scripts which included Ms Carano for the new season of the show) and the president of Lucasfilm (Kathleen Kennedy) who also produced the more recent Star Wars movies.

There appears to be a conflict between the 2, as "Star Wars" fans have been much more favourable towards the Mandalorian's approach to the "Star Wars" universe than they were towards the recent movies (sequel trilogy). The recent portrayal of one of the original characters in an episode (as Jon wished), rather than a different character (Ashoka Tano, which Kathleen wanted), and the difference in fan reaction to the character's depiction in the TV series, compared to the movies had exacerbated this...There are even suggestions a new series was\is being considered that could remove the later movies from "Star Wars" lore\timeline in order to align with the wishes of the fans.

Given Ms Kennedy has a very different political outlook to Ms Carano, it is possible this tweet was an easy way to both cause issues for the "competition" to her preferred direction for the franchise, as well as removing someone with a differing political viewpoint.

However, if she was removed for making a political statement, Ms Carano may have potential recourse to California employment law:

Source: https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/labor/harassment/political-retaliation/

Not so clear cut. Also from the site you link to:



So, it could be possible for Disney to fire her. Also, is she an employee or contracted worker? He contract could simply not be renewed.

Sounds like wishful thinking on your part.

The press release from Disney used the word "dropped" rather than fired. Disney have access to the best lawyers so I highly doubt they would expose themselves or their brand to the embarrassment of a long drawn out wrongful dismissal court case.

My guess is its a simple case of not renewing Carano's contract. I see no evidence in the media that Carano is legally contesting her dismissal. Sounds like both parties have parted ways except Carano not (surprisingly) has done her best to attack Disney in an acrimonious way. Even if by some miracle she was able to be re-hired I doubt Favreau, Kennedy or any other executive would want to work with her so her role would be relinquished to some 1-2min cameo/appearance.

"Ms Carano may have potential recourse"

May:

Source: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/may

As I plainly stated: She MAY have potential recourse.

At no point did I say she could do so, nor that it was "clear-cut", so please refrain from adding personal interpretations regarding what I typed and presenting those as the intent\meaning of my words...

My understanding is that Kathleen Kennedy is something of a scapegoat of right wing Star Wars fans that are unhappy with recent movies, someone they can blame as both women and left and I presume left wing. It is a conspiracy theory that this whole thing was a plot by such a person with left wing beliefs who wanted to silence a right wing person, and people should actually provide evidence over repeating just rumours spread by reactionaries. Being able to later deny they made any claim by just saying it was a rumour.

Yes that would be nice...

Sorry, Australian English might be different. I wrote "not so clear cut." Which means it is not certain. And "possible" is a synonym for "may."

There is no language barrier involving those terms.

What we are dealing with is a general mindset among several people that perceives possibilities as certainties and mere beliefs as foregone factual conclusions.  Within this mindset, everything is clear-cut -- an answer is either yes or no, black or white, good or evil, et cetera.  It is called "Bipolar Thinking", and it is the bane of reasoned discussions everywhere.

Probably the absolute worst thing you can imagine.

No great loss.  If she was a better actor, nobody would care what she says or does off the clock.

That was my earlier point. It puzzled me why some fans were stinky about Rosario Dawson playing Ashoka Tano (obviously they were ignorant about her years of experience in marshal arts/science fiction) yet seemed to cheer for a no-name "roid" woman to play Cara Dune?

1) Political opinions are just opinions. I've never been bent out of shape due to differences of opinion except in severe circumstances like whether the weather looks bad while exposed on a mountain. Even then, or perhaps especially so, I'm not going to get overly emotional about a disagreement of opinion.

2) Offence is taken, not given. Gina Carano is by all accounts a very nice lady and not known for hurling invectives. A more charitable interpretation of statements made by all parties for all parties would make life a lot easier for everyone I think!

3) Factually, she wasn't wrong. She was clearly talking about pre-war Germany whereby propagandists started the pogrom against Jews well before the Nazis assumed power. It's an analogy to our current cancel culture and everyone should learn a bit of history before throwing mud. She never said people were being gassed. She didn't even say conservatives but rather said differences of political opinion. Now some of you think that differences of opinion deserve denying someone any ability to be employed and I find this really sad and tragic, even. At that point we have truly given up on the idea that we have a common spirit and the demonization and otherizing of people is under full sway. We know from many examples in history what follows from this and it is never good. This was Gina's point, but political heel-digging and emotionalism has blinded many of you.

4) Gina wasn't even fired for this. The industry media are going to print whatever the multi-billion dollar corporation wants them to print. They're not in independent and know what side their bread is buttered on. The fact is many actors have invoked Godwin's law such as comparing temporary holding cells to Nazi death camps and haven't received any flack. What's really going on is a civil war inside Disney over the Star Wars franchise (and narrative) between Kathleen Kennedy and her woke ilk vs Jon Favreau and others who want to listen to fans and make shows and movies which play homage to the original story (vs KK who wants to use it to wage a culture war). All this blah blah about a relatively innocuous and tame instagram post (especially in comparison to more strident ones which have been ignored) demonstrates how so many have become politically possessed and lack any tether to either history nor present reality, and this become pawns for the elites who watch us claw at one another over differences of opinion.

What a pathetic and sad state of affairs we live in!