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Oh, so now I'm lying about the years of abuse I've endured?!

I can't say I'm surprised. After all, this is far from the first time I've heard this from a feminist. You think this kind of behavior is perfectly acceptable when it's directed at men.

It never takes long for your kind to reveal their true nature. Thank you for proving my point to everyone!

Forgive me for not saving documentation of every man-hating post I’ve ever come across on social media and for not recording video evidence of every time I’ve personally encountered feminists shouting “Men are pigs! Men are trash! Men are scum!” or all the times they attacked me personally. It would impossible for me to go find them all now. But I did give the examples like Clementine Ford’s “Coronavirus isn’t killing men fast enough” tweet and the aforementioned #killallmen that you just a bunch of excuses to rationalize away.

I never said that women don’t deserve rights. If I did say that, you could easily quote the post. You are a blatant liar.



First of all, you do not get to label me! You do not get to create some false binary bullsh!t in which I must adopt whatever label you demand or otherwise be characterized according to your whim. Furthermore, I don’t need to justify myself to the likes of you! I’m most certainly neither a feminist nor a misogynist, and it’s not for the likes of you to decide that I’m either!

As I’ve said already, I don’t have an issue with women. What I object to is feminism. And since I have already thoroughly explained this more than once, it's clear that you are being deliberately disingenuous.



I doublechecked the quote and I misread it the first time. I apologize for making that mistake.



There is nothing extraordinary about my claims. In fact, feminists engaging in man-bashing is rather mundane.

I deleted all my social media accounts years ago, so I haven’t kept up with all it. But here are some examples I found online:

This is a video from Australian TV about the aforementioned tweet from Clementine Ford:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxyJq9Hl-jo

Clementine then doxed a child who reacted angrily to the tweet.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... o-boy.html

Feminists organized an online campaign to bully a mentally disabled man in Melbourne because he asked a woman for a high five on the tram. Feminists' call for equality, it seems, does not extend to the mentally handicapped. You can read about it here:
https://antifeminismaustralia.com/cleme ... abled-man/

After a feminist got suspended from Facebook for posting “men are scum”, she organized a 500-person campaign to spread the phrase “men are scum” all over Facebook. In the following article, the author laments the “problem” of hate speech against men not being allowed on Facebook. And by the way, Facebook’s management doesn’t object to hate speech against men; they just couldn't find a suitable loophole that would allow for it while still protecting other groups.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02 ... ate-speech

Here are some other feminist articles I found online:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

https://medium.com/@tannergiles/opinion ... 1aca5fc5cb

https://www.the-sun.com/lifestyle/18544 ... -hate-men/

French feminists blogger wrote a book titled "I Hate Men: More than a banned book, the must-read on feminism, sexism and the patriarchy for every woman

You can order it here:
https://www.amazon.com/Hate-Men-must-re ... 200&sr=8-1

Is that enough proof?



Have I told you how pathetically predictable you are?

If Solanas was simply being satirical, then why did she attempt to murder a man?

I notice that you didn’t only ignore that question, but you edited out when you quoted me. Almost as if you’re deliberately attempting to erase anything that exposes your lies.



It was never my intention to defend #killallwomen. I was simply pointing out that it exists only as a reaction to #killallmen.



Well, assuming you’re not just lying again, I’d say them not expressing contempt to your face might have something to do with the fact that you’re constantly shilling for them.

And sure, I’ve been treated with contempt by non-feminists. But that's a non-sequitur. It's like saying that if Jews are ever treated badly by anyone who isn't a Nazi, that would somehow disprove that Nazis hate Jews.

Have you ever heard the story of "the boy who cried wolf"?  I’ve expressed sympathy for you for any abuse you have suffered. Unfortunately you have told so many lies in this discussion and proffered so much vitriol that it is difficult for me to assume that anything you have said is true, or that your representations of relationships are entirely as you have portrayed them.  There is never any excuse or justification for abuse, but I strongly suspect that the isolated incidents of people "dismissing you because you're a man" may actually be because you said something rude or misogynistic...

Have you ever heard the story of “the boy who cried wolf”?

I’ve expressed sympathy for you for any abuse you have suffered. Unfortunately you have told so many lies in this discussion and proffered so much vitriol that it is difficult for me to assume that anything you have said is true, or that your representations of relationships are entirely as you have portrayed them. There is never any excuse or justification for abuse, but I strongly suspect that the isolated incidents of people “dismissing you because you’re a man” may actually be because you said something rude or misogynistic.

You have to understand that the vast majority of feminists are not remotely misandrists, and the vast majority of misandrists are not feminists, and there is nothing in modern feminist theory that is misandrist. When you say “I am against feminism”, you are saying that you are against women’s rights.

If you want to redefine feminism to mean misandry then good luck, but that isn’t how most people use the term. If you go around saying “I am against feminism” or telling every good man in the world to read a satirical work by a long-dead irrelevance, then the only reasonable conclusion people will draw is that you are a misogynist. If in fact you are not a misogynist then I would suggest it would be more effective for you to say “I am against misandry” than for you to say “I am against feminism”.

Frankly, based on your behaviour so far, it seems much more likely that you are actually a misogynist, opposed to women’s rights, who thinks that misrepresenting feminism will convert more people to his bigoted cause. I’d love to be proven wrong. But as long as you walk around lying about feminism, and conflating feminism with misandry, it is difficult to believe that you are making these claims in good faith.

If you’re really concerned about misandry then call it misandry, don’t call it feminism. Or if you have objections to women’s rights then root then in actual feminism in theory and practice. Don’t go looking for irrelevant oddballs or obscure hashtags and try to paint them as representative of feminism. That’s both intellectually and morally bankrupt.

... I'm going to ignore any further posts from you.

There are real problems of denying abuse on men - especially sexual abuse - because somehow many people imagine a man can't be abused or if he was, it would be his fault or something. That's sick.

I've already explained that a dictionary definition has no bearing on what is practiced...

I've already explained that a dictionary definition has no bearing on what is practiced.

I want equal rights for men and women. I don't like traditional gender roles at all. As a child I constantly struggled with what was expected of me as a boy, and I still struggle with what society expects of me as a man. So I certainly don't want a return to traditional society. But just because things are changing doesn't mean that we're on the right track. What I want is to dissolve power structures and do away with the paradigm of hierarchy altogether; creating a world in which everyone is on equal footing and no person or group holds any form of power over another.

But this is not what feminists want; the goal of feminism is to create a new power structure in which women hold power over men. This is evident in their rhetoric. Has anyone read the articles I linked last night? One of them demands that all men to step down from any position of authority and vote only for women. Does that sound like equality to you?

And what of the women feminists disapprove of, like erotic dancers and escorts? Why does "my body, my choice" suddenly go out the window when it comes to sex work? Why don't feminists care about the rights of those women?

Can anyone explain to me why Donna Hylton, a convicted murderer, is embraced by the Women's March movement?

That's what I mean by "the crazy branch of feminism".

Well, it certainly looks like "the crazy branch of feminism" is who's running the show.