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Matthew Chapter 7 Jesus says "21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness."

So you are quite right, Its up to God, and many people who will call themselves Christians are going to be disappointed.

Many people who dont call themselves Christians will be saved at the end if they refuse to worship and bow down to the Satanic One World Order and chose God at the end.

Don't rag on the exalted one.

That text does have interesting implications, doesn't it. It makes me wonder how important a person's dogma really is compared to their actual behavior.

Haven't seen him around for a while, actually.

So, a True Christian is someone who both adopts the label of "Christian" and does not bow down to the "Satanic One World Order?" What the heck is the "Satanic One World Order?" Whatever it is, I haven't bowed down to it.

The concept of what a "True" Christian is, which it have been said here before by some, is wrong. The thinking of being a true christian defining it by their dogma, that is, saying catholics are not true christians, other sects are not true christians, evangelicals are not true christians, etc. just my church, because we have the "truth" and others don't. That obviously DOESN'T make one a "True" Christian.

A third of them did,

Genisis 6

1 Now it came about that when men started to grow in numbers on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, 2 then the sons of the [true] God began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves, namely, all whom they chose.

4 The Neph´i·lim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the [true] God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they were the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame.

The sons of God where the Angels, elsewhere it tells you that they foresook thier place in Heaven to have sex with Humans, they are what are known as the Demons now.

The Nephilim where the hybrid offspring, giant demi-gods from where the Greek legends spring from.

Satan is the formost head of the Angels that sinned, he was a Cherib whose duty was to look after mankind and the Earth, but he wanted the worship for himself so Jesus had to take over his job.

As for Christians being the only ones saved,
The price of sin is death, all have sinned, Jesus death buys your life back a life for a life, (ok, he was only one man, but he died childless, you take the place of one of the children he never had because he died for you first).
Unless you know of another way of buyibg your life back, how else you going to pay the price?

The price has been paid for all men though, regardless of religion or if they died before Jesus even came to earth.

They will have to submit to Jesus in the ressurection though, else they are subjected to what Revelation calls, "the second death".

Where is the sin in what the sons of God did?

Which Greek legends derived from the Nephilim?

What is your source for your claims concerning Satan?

How does Jesus' death "buy back" all of these lives? What is the connection? Why would God have established such a system?

Moi? I've been here enough.

Yes, yes, I'm aware of those who
stood by freedom. What I meant,
is do the unfallen sin? Or, was it
a one-time option, and now their
free will is gone?

How did God make them so obedient,
once the free left?

Does this mean that upon death, we
lose free will, if 'good'?

I'd rather not, you know.
Something that I rather treasure.

Losing eternity and the fact to face death sometime, it would have frighten any of them, although the others seemed to not be scared by the threat, being expelled, condemned to earth, apparently.


I don't know about that, but it would be a great tyrannical utopian society, in which everybody is happy, so no one would have a reason to complain, unless you want sex.

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So, only the mindless drones remained?
They surrender their free will, in favor of
lotus eating?

Nice.