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snake321
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08 Sep 2007, 11:00 pm

Although I don't see AS as a disability.... But society does, so we're lumped in with the disabled. This would technically make the disabled our cousins.



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08 Sep 2007, 11:12 pm

might i suggest you edit your first post instead of posting a string like you just did? you could break up the individual edits into different paragraphs as needed.

i mean it's not like anyone has said anything after you to where they may have missed the edit.



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08 Sep 2007, 11:14 pm

I would but I dunno how, I kinda suck with computers lol.



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08 Sep 2007, 11:15 pm

there's an edit button next to the quote button in your posts, click that and then just treat it like it's a post.



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08 Sep 2007, 11:26 pm

there isn't an edit button there.



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08 Sep 2007, 11:29 pm

I did it now but I still can't delete the excess posts.



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08 Sep 2007, 11:51 pm

*facepalms*


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09 Sep 2007, 2:58 am

Did you know that, if you and a NT person had a kid together and then your partner left you, they could use AS against you and have your kids taken away because your "disabled", therefore "unfit to raise a child"? I've seen it happen before.



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09 Sep 2007, 8:59 am

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I'm not thinking straight at the moment, so I could be completely off on this, but do you think there is a possibility that legalizing prostitution would just make it easier for men to sexually abuse/assault women and get away with it?

It seems like a dangerous lowering of moral standards, to me.

I seriously doubt that any woman who sells her body is doing so entirely of her own free will. And by that, I mean, for any reason not of pathological origin or simply for the desperate need of money.



to my knowledge, your first point has definitely not happened in Holland. the existence of prostitution (and not just by illegal immigrants) in the 1st world, in places with a welfare state, proves that it's not always economic desperation. surely many are choosing between making a living in low-paid jobs or making far, far more money as prostitutes. yes, it's not a job anyone aspires to, but, to quote an actual prostitute on this, 'there are lots of people that don't like their job.'


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17 Sep 2007, 5:25 am

snake321 wrote:
Did you know that, if you and a NT person had a kid together and then your partner left you, they could use AS against you and have your kids taken away because your "disabled", therefore "unfit to raise a child"? I've seen it happen before.
Well, wouldn't it be better to fight against this misuse of power than to expect taxpayer funded brothels?


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17 Sep 2007, 7:49 am

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If they legalized prostitution, not only would it help stop human trafficking by 1. making them stand out, and 2. offering their clientele a consentive means to sexual health, it would also reduce sexual assault crimes.
Sex is a **proven** human need to mental and emotional growth, the European Union and the United Nations back this as a basic human right for all individuals. It is what we are programmed to do in order to pass on our seeds. I would expect many of the guys here to understand that this is the only way many guys can get laid (and a few girls, but mostly guys since we're the ones that must do all the courting in traditional relationships).
In Norway, Sweden, Finland, and Netherlands, they've legalized state funded prostitution in the disability advocacy package to fight the stigma of sexuality and disability. As a matter of fact, my contacts in the disability rights movement have confirmed that sexual rights are going to play a major role on the disability rights agenda.
World leaders met in Hong Kong to draft legislation for international sexual rights. On hand was the sexological research information. An organization was established in the UN called the World Sex Health Association, who recently changed their name to World Association of Sexology:

http://www.worldsexology.org/index.asp

Much of this research and information was blocked passage into the mainstream US carriculum by the religious right wing, although neither the liberals nor the conservatives are too high on disability rights. Liberals are advocating for the sexual rights of other groups such as women, gays, but disabled people are excluded because apparently they like much of society hold the disabled to stigma and isolation, and the assumption that disability is justified discrimination.

Other nations that are big on sexual rights of the disabled include various nations in South America, South Africa, and asia. As a matter of fact there is a significant number more nations that are pro sexual rights and pro disability than there are against it.

That is to acknowledge the history of oppression of the disabled, from the eugenics era and even long before that, we've faced systematic exclusion, forced sterilization, institutionalization, even to this day the disabled are the one group that has been scorned, degrated, and humiliated on a societal wide basis and it's generally considered "ok" to hold us to stereotypes or at best treat us like charity cases instead of regular human beings. Pity is an indirect form of discrimination here.

Although I don't see AS as a disability.... But society does, so we're lumped in with the disabled. This would technically make the disabled our cousins.



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17 Sep 2007, 2:49 pm

It's legal here, nothing went 'bad', the girls are safer, the punter safer, no lightning came from the sky, the only problem was the self righteous religious hard liners [of all denominations] got upset.
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17 Sep 2007, 10:19 pm

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Just because two people consent to something... doesn't mean that one of them isn't a victim.

I could pay someone money to set me on fire... I'm still a victim. Perhaps of my own stupidity... but still a victim of something.


This is known as a misleading vividness error of logic.


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17 Sep 2007, 10:48 pm

I don't see why not. The problem is that there would still be some women who are abused/forced into it and are drug addicts. I have never been to Holland, but if I do go, I will bang a few hookers and decide if their system >>> ours.



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17 Sep 2007, 10:52 pm

Pandora wrote:
snake321 wrote:
Did you know that, if you and a NT person had a kid together and then your partner left you, they could use AS against you and have your kids taken away because your "disabled", therefore "unfit to raise a child"? I've seen it happen before.
Well, wouldn't it be better to fight against this misuse of power than to expect taxpayer funded brothels?


more tax dollars would come FROM brothels than go INTO brothels.


or are you talking about all the DC guys who'd be spending all our money on prostitutes?



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18 Sep 2007, 6:23 am

If Snake321 wants to get "laid", he should crawl up a hen's bum and wait a bit...


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