11 Oct 2007, 5:20 pm
xyzyxx wrote:
Hell isn't living in sin. Hell is living in constant, perpetual torment and eternal separation from God.
You mean from your god? Now that is what I call paradise. 
11 Oct 2007, 5:21 pm
11 Oct 2007, 5:27 pm
Fiona_Bruce_Fan wrote:
username88 wrote:
Fiona_Bruce_Fan wrote:
I am not afraid of Heaven, but I am afraid of Hell!
Ok so you want to get to heaven and your terrified of Hell, is that really an excuse to want to be a "good" person? Or is it because you really are a good person? I dont know you, so maybe you can answer that question.
I am agnostic!
Nice avatar
11 Oct 2007, 5:30 pm
greenblue wrote:
Fiona_Bruce_Fan wrote:
username88 wrote:
Fiona_Bruce_Fan wrote:
I am not afraid of Heaven, but I am afraid of Hell!
Ok so you want to get to heaven and your terrified of Hell, is that really an excuse to want to be a "good" person? Or is it because you really are a good person? I dont know you, so maybe you can answer that question.
I am agnostic!
Nice avatar
Thank you!
It is Fiona Bruce! Do you watch her on the Ten O'Clock News as well???
11 Oct 2007, 5:37 pm
greenblue wrote:
Eternal? I like better the idea of heaven being eternal, not hell.
What do you think heaven is, an empire without limits? 
Why do you think someone would rebel? I could never live on Earth like this, nevermind in this heaven for all eternity. The ten commandments are just an abbreviation of the real list of "do nots", which is hundreds upon hundreds. All of them being corrupt. As an example, you can tell me one if you wish, and I can let you know what is wrong with it. Pick one, any one 
11 Oct 2007, 5:46 pm
username88 wrote:
What do you think heaven is, an empire without limits? Why do you think someone would rebel? I could never live on Earth like this, nevermind in this heaven for all eternity.
Why do you think someone would rebel? I could never live on Earth like this, nevermind in this heaven for all eternity.Anyone who rebels goes straight to hell, kinda like a dystopian utopia?
username88 wrote:
The ten commandments are just an abbreviation of the real list of "do nots", which is hundreds upon hundreds. All of them being corrupt. As an example, you can tell me one if you wish, and I can let you know what is wrong with it. Pick one, any one
You shall not kill.
11 Oct 2007, 5:48 pm
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11 Oct 2007, 5:57 pm
Fiona_Bruce_Fan wrote:
Thank you!
It is Fiona Bruce! Do you watch her on the Ten O'Clock News as well???
It is Fiona Bruce! Do you watch her on the Ten O'Clock News as well???
No, but that pic you posted there, she looks very nice
11 Oct 2007, 6:02 pm
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11 Oct 2007, 6:55 pm
username88 wrote:
You must have forgotten all the good reasons to kill, maybe because of all the reasons you think are wrong.
One of them being self protection during desperate situations. An example: Ok, so there is this guy running at you with a knife, cornering you in an alleyway. There is nothing stopping him from killing you the second he gets to you. But wait a minute, you have a gun in your jacket. Its either you or him, so what to do next is pretty obvious. Its not your fault, furthermore, the guy was going to kill you hmmm..
One of them being self protection during desperate situations. An example: Ok, so there is this guy running at you with a knife, cornering you in an alleyway. There is nothing stopping him from killing you the second he gets to you. But wait a minute, you have a gun in your jacket. Its either you or him, so what to do next is pretty obvious. Its not your fault, furthermore, the guy was going to kill you hmmm..
You know, It seems that conservative christians agree with you on this, dispite the "you shall not kill" commandment in the Bible, I suppose self protection is ok, but, as you say desperate situations, can anyone clearly THINK in desperate situations? What I mean is, that it's always possible you can make a bad judgement and ending up defending yourself killing an innocent person. I say it is possible, this text belongs somewhere else I think
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A second example is abortion. When this act becomes illegal, women will become desperate, and attempt to perform it themselves or have it done by the guy in the alley with a coathanger. Do you have any idea of how dangerous this is? Women die most of the time when this happens due to infection. Also, you cant keep putting kids in orphanages, not to mention that they also get over crowded, and theres nothing stopping abusive adults from adopting them, I know from experience. You also cant keep them with a mother who is severely mentally disturbed and is obviously not fit to care for children. Or if a woman is straight up just not ready yet, no matter what it is her responsibility to do what is right and stop a problem before it will occur. How do you know they werent trying to be careful, and used a condom but it broke? Mistakes happen, so just do what you can.
Abortion: I am pro-choice within the first 3 months only, so I agree a little with you there, although I think the reason should be actually justified.
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Oh, and lets say there is a maniac who is about to kill an innocent child, or blow up a city, and you have him in your aim with a sniper rifle. Are you really going to think, oh no I might go to hell for this I better not do it?
lol, of course not, although the reason for killing or not killing should be humanitarian, not just for avoiding hell, this case seems to be an exception.
11 Oct 2007, 7:09 pm
greenblue wrote:
I say it is possible, this text belongs somewhere else I think
I dont think soQuote:
Abortion: I am pro-choice within the first 3 months only, so I agree a little with you there, although I think the reason should be actually justified.
Justified? Its as justified as it can get as it is.Quote:
lol, of course not, although the reason for killing or not killing should be humanitarian, not just for avoiding hell, this case seems to be an exception.
To your god, there is no exception. Where does it say, well, you can kill, but only if its for the right reasons.. The expection is for you to turn your cheek, and let whatever happens happen, because if something happens it is "gods will"...
Oh, and just for fun keep challenging my logic, its stimulating for me
11 Oct 2007, 7:29 pm
username88 wrote:
To your god, there is no exception. Where does it say, well, you can kill, but only if its for the right reasons.. The expection is for you to turn your cheek, and let whatever happens happen, because if something happens it is "gods will"...
Oh, and just for fun keep challenging my logic, its stimulating for me
Oh, and just for fun keep challenging my logic, its stimulating for me
You are on your way down to hell
I'm agnostic btw.
11 Oct 2007, 7:43 pm
greenblue wrote:
username88 wrote:
To your god, there is no exception. Where does it say, well, you can kill, but only if its for the right reasons.. The expection is for you to turn your cheek, and let whatever happens happen, because if something happens it is "gods will"...
Oh, and just for fun keep challenging my logic, its stimulating for me
Oh, and just for fun keep challenging my logic, its stimulating for me
You are on your way down to hell
I'm agnostic btw.
Also I dont know if I was careful enough to say everything the way I wanted but its good enough for me. Gets the point across pretty good I think.
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