Is there life after death ??

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This is why the human mind is considered an "emergent phenomenon". This is sort of like the little cloud of steam over a pot of boiling water - turn off the fire, let the water evaporate, or remove the pot, and the process that produces the steam (the "emergent phenomenon") disappears.


Death is the end of life. This post is not part of me; so when I log off, I leave no part of me here - just a lot of electronic data on a remote webserver, that's all.


There exists no material cause to believe that it does. Just because "a lot of people" believe or experience thus-and-such, that does not make and claim of "Life-After-Death" true - the plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence", after all.

I think that I did not explain waht i meant in a good way there.
Follow the link under. What I meant is described in that documentary from 37.15.
Link: Through the wormhole: Is there life after death

I did actually make that point, my good Lackadaisy priest.

No you just see black and rot in the ground.

We easily soak up the idea that he universe started with a big bang, yet we find it easy to dismiss that our conscience may survive after we have done with this life.

Unfortunately both can only be proven as a theory. I don’t know anyone who has experienced a black hole or even seen one, but there does seem to be millions of people (myself included) who believe they have experience something that indicates a possible afterlife.

I have had out of body experiences throughout my life, this and a few other things lead me to believe we have a spirit (something we have yet to understand). So if we do have a spirit, then why should there not be an afterlife?

I don't care for religion and science doesn't know everything...

You never heard of Pascal wager?

Pascal's Wager is the argument that says that you should believe in God even if there is a great chance that he might not be real.

I don’t believe in god, but I do believe in the fact we don’t know everything.

God was made from the image of man, not the other way round as the bible tells us.

a) We "do easily soak up the idea that the universe startet with a big bang" because galaxies moves away from each other, which means that they have to have been closer to each other in the past, ie. that everything were at one point in the beginning, and we have this image...
[img][800:600]http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/media/poster2002/WMAP_poster2002b.jpg[/img]
...which is light from when the universe become so cold that it became transparant to light, which means that it has to have been really hot before.
b) What does "proven as theory" mean
c) I am not going to comment your out of body experience, because i can't think of a way of doing it without being mean.
d) Scientists know that they don't know everything, which is why they are studying the universe instead of sitting at home, watching Doctor Who and playing World of Warcraft.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDYba0m6ztE[/youtube]

a) Pascal's wager is only valid if it means eternal damnation to not believe in an afterlife.
b) It si not even valid then.

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The Wager is a shameful cop out.

ruveyn

Aren’t scientists now playing with the idea that the universe came from within a black hole?

What is belief anyway, is it not an instinct belonging to all animals, the same as faith.
A cat won’t cross the road if it (believes) there is danger, it has (faith) in its own judgement.

As for thinking you might be mean in saying something about out of body experiences, don’t be, I understand if people only believe in their own experiences.

Many people’s beliefs are mainly made up from what they read and know from others.

If scientist don’t know everything than how can they dismiss the idea of an afterlife, unless they have proven otherwise. That was the reason why I said scientist don’t know everything.

A scientist is more likely to say, "There is no evidence to support a claim in favor of an 'afterlife'", than "There is no 'afterlife'" unless he has some books to sell. Personally, I'm still waiting for a material cause to believe in an 'afterlife'.

So how do you go from "There is no evidence for 'X'" to "'X' must be true", anyway?

There is but I won't be around to see it. I'll be dead.

Stephen Hawkins said he believes there is no afterlife, not that there is no evidence of an afterlife, so it must be true.

What are we to believe, even when you believe in your own experiences, it is still not so unless some scientist tells you so, and then another scientist comes along and tells you something else?

Thank gosh we are all different, imagine if everyone in the world believed in the same thing, what kind of a world would that be?

Believe what you will.

There is no cause to believe in an 'afterlife', except what you might read in a book that is full of legends that have been passed around by illiterate nomadic tribesmen since the Early Bronze age.

As for me, I will believe in only those things for which I have cause to believe in, and not just any old myths that some religious fanatics tell me to believe in.


So how do you go from "There is no evidence for 'X'" to "'X' must be true", anyway?

A scientists opinion on a theological matter carries no weight. A scientists opinion on a scientific matter does matter.

ruveyn

Good scientists dismiss nothing as anything is theoretically possible. What if I come up with a theory that a universe similar to the one we live in is currently in my ass, so tiny we can't see it. Is that theory impossible? No, but the percent chance that it could be possible is basically 0 therefore I can safely assume that's it's essentially impossible. The same can be said about an afterlife until we discover anything that may say otherwise.
I can't safely say anything is impossible because we don't know everything and until we do we can't say anything's 100%, nothing is definite. (*Cough* wasn't long ago we said the world is definitely flat *cough*)

I like to think there's an afterlife as I fear the loss of existence, nothingness is my fear. I don't want to simply stop existing, it'd suck... I mean I wouldn't even realise I don't freaking exist anymore! Nothing makes me more hopeless and scared then the prospect of ceasing to exist.

Wow, I'm going to think about that little 'theory' every time I go to the loo now... What if on that incomprehensibly low chance I actually do destroy an entire universe by going to the loo?