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Thank you for your intelligent response.

jmatucd, that is the most bigotted piece of codswallop I have heard in my entire life!! !! !!

"ruled by a superior being" - then America is a theocracy, just like Iran.

"You are at the mercy of those with guns" - we don't have any guns.

"Any movement to the contrary will be met with force and is legally sanctioned by the declaration of the independence and the constitution" - you mean like locking people up without trial and torturing them for false evidence.

"The free market systems assure that those who rise through the ranks do so based on merit and not patronage" - oh well, we all know how Bush got into power: "Hey daddy, I wanna be President too."

"Like being able to see what books foreign nationals check out of libraries" - not very liberal is it?

"You have my contempt." - I am sure those on the Left have the same feelings towards you.

I wonder if jmatucd has ever visited the uk?

then you sir, have not experienced enough in life.



Having protected rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is not tantamount to rule of Sharia law. Sharia law was written by man to control man. The United States is a union which guarantees man will not have domain over another. Rights are inalienable because they, like life itself, stem from the hands of a higher being. (if you cannot accept that you were created by something, then I cannot help you)



You don't have any guns? Who is believing the propaganda? Your criminals have guns. Your criminals and terrorists have bombs. Perhaps you have never heard of either having being used in te U.K. before (or should I say recently). If you do not believe that criminals are in possession of guns, then you are delusional. Are they not in possession of narcotics either? Since narcotics are illegal in Britain then there are no narcotics in Britain? Use your mind.



Citizens of the United States are protected against government repression. Those who venture out to kill citizens of the United States will be dealt in the most heavy manner possible to add deterrence. The rules for interrogation are not tantamount to torture. In some cases humiliation, yes. The worst army interrogators can do to you is hold you in a room for a long time where one interrogator attempts to wear you out how ever long he or she may last. There is no logical reason to torture or coerce any false evidence from non-combatants (also affectionately referred to as terrorists). False information leads us to nothing. We need solid and true intelligence, otherwise it will not serve in protecting the United States or the West in any way... but you knew that already, right?



President Bush was elected to office in a general election after winning the Republican nomination over John McCain. He was then re-elected. His father is incapable of installing his son as President being that he has no power over the Executive, Legislative, or Judicial branches of the United States. You are wrong.



I do not care for people who rent books on building bombs or constructing nuclear weapons. Liberalism is irrelevant if it will get you killed.



I do not care about feelings. I care about exposing what is right and wrong. Perhaps no one ever informed you that the truth exists. So far, it has eluded you.

Only Europe in general. I suppose lived for periods of time is more appropriate.

I have never visited Ancient Rome, yet I can expound on the subject.
I suppose those silly University courses in comparative politics were silly, in retrospect. I suppose knowledge in general is far too silly for anyone to care for it, right?

What about teenagers who get out books on these things because they just think it's interesting? I know I would have been like that as a teen. Would they be treated like criminals now because of their libarary list? I think that education and reading are important things to encourage, not frighten people away from.

what? Are you serious? If you check out of book on bomb making you _will_ and _should_ get a ring on your door from the feds or local police asking why you want to learn to blow things up. And if you are part of an extremist islamic group or on a watch list, then you should doubly be checked from head to toe. This is common sense. If you are kid who read about this because you are interested, then I doubt they will care whatsoever. It’s more of a deterrent anyways.

The government is searching for people seeking recipes for explosive devices, nuclear weapons, biological, and chemical weapons. They do not care about anything else. They do not care if you read Harry Potter or Deepak Chopra. They only care about people looking for ways to kill large amounts of other people. That is what they want to survey (and they have not yet to this day used this power).

If you that concerned for your own safety, then DO NOT RENT BOMB MAKING BOOKS. This is simple logic. You do not need them, and you do not need the trouble associated with them.

Well, I won't, thank God, because I will never live in a country where your "library habits" are not private.

I suppose building bombs in private is ok so long as it is in private, Right?

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spoken like a true Aspie............

I presume you dont throw about insults so liberally to people that you are debating with in real life so dont do it over the internet jmatucd. People like bush scare me with their pro-war self righteous ways and im glad that people like that are less likely to have a gun here.

If your such an expert come up with real facts why you are right but try harder than your israel explanation where you worked things round your own bias and missed out plenty that israel done wrong like it was an israeli that commited a atrocity in a place of worship for the palestinians which led directly to the start of suicide bombings and retaliation and the israelis had american help to win the war in the first place. Funny how you were so good to point out arab wrongdoings and help but not with Israel.

What the hell? (Christ, this should be fun)

- you people are throwing the insults, insulting American's intelligence in general. I just happen to be proving you to be wrong. Perhaps this is an insult, but you initiated the attack and I countered.

- I do not care what scares you or makes you happy. If tree squirrels scare you, then that is not my concern. My concerns lie in matters of truth.

"why you are right but try harder than your israel explanation where you worked things round your own bias and missed out plenty that israel done wrong"

What??

"israeli that commited a atrocity in a place of worship for the palestinians which led directly to the start of suicide bombings"

What are you talking about? An atrocity? Ever hear of the 1948, 1967, 1973 Arab-Israeli wars? And then during the intifadas they targeted men women and children.. Yes, they were trying to kill kids, and they succeeded many times. On purpose.
So, what atrocity? I think you may be referring to Sharon walking to and visiting the Temple Mount... Why cannot he visit the Temple Mount or a Christian Church? No harm came to the place or its people. It is not ok for an Israeli to visit a holy place respectfully, and yet you hold back you venom for those mass murders of Hamas and Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyr’s Brigade? I'll restate it, what atrocity - I want to know.

"and the israelis had american help to win the war in the first place"

The Israeli's did not need American help to win the Intifadas. As for the previous wars, the Israelis were supplied with American weapons because the Arabs outnumbered the Jews many times over and had superior Soviet hardware. In many case, the Israelis fought with retrofitted WWII equipment in the 1967 war because they had no choice. Even though they were outnumbered, surrounded, and had less capable weapons, they defeated their foes. There is a reason why us military aid flowed post 67, it is because the Israelis would not survive another Arab invasion. Funny, I never heard you decry the Arab attempts to push the Jews into the sea... But visiting a temple peacefully is an 'atrocity' for you! You are truly twisted in your facts.


"Funny how you were so good to point out arab wrongdoings and help but not with Israel"

That is because the Arabs outnumber and out power the Israelis and consistently have tried to destroy it. That is why I am pointing out history, because that is what happened.

So why do so many yank right wingers want to prove asperger's doesn't exist and that we're all scroungers?

First of all the the idea that Bush and his supporters are dumb came out of America not here. Its just that most of us agree with it. That is different from calling everyone here names and trying to patronise them with your very contentious language. For someone with such extensive knowledge as you claim to have you see things in a very black and white sense which is reminiscent of Bush. Very worrying for the world from my perspective.

Bush has went to a war citing weapons of mass destruction. That has proven to be wrong. You cant kill 25,000 people and expect to get away with it but as General Tommy Franks (US central command said "we dont do body counts".

Israel should move back to pre-1967 borders in accordance with international law or expect more atrocities. Ariel Sharon used to be a terrorist so his visit in 2000 wasnt a very good idea for peace. What I was talking about however was a Jewish "settler" in the west bank town of hebron fired on praying muslims killing 29 people and so setting off the most recent of troubles. Just look at the figures of numbers killed. Isreaeli has racist property laws banning arabs from being full citizens.

Israel could weed out the combatants in Palestine but instead bombs areas and kills many civillians. Im not trying to blame everything on the jews of the middle east but try and have some balance instead of blaming everything on the Palestinians.

This is all good stuff. You know, I don't go along with all that religous mumbo-jumbo you yanks are into, but the rest of the right-wing stuff makes sense. What you say about our country is true, and although our government isn't socialist per se, it has enough reds in it's ranks to convince me to never vote for it.

Socialist ideology is also very effectively inculcated into our young people at school — you may have noticed. In adult life, the Unions, Welfare State and various branches of Government also do their best to remove any sense of responsibility from individuals, and quash any residual ability we have to think for ourselves.

I don't like. In fact I detest it. I can never understand the mentality that lets government have so much power over our individual lives.

My advice to you over there is to fight it, because once you're in it's grip there's no hope.

Capitalism myth #23 - Those who work will earn what comes to them

Capitalism fact #23 - Those who kiss a$$ or are related to those in power will earn what they DON'T have coming to them.

You can't argue this one, I've seen this first hand MANY times myself in the job's I've held. The husband of the manager who became manager himself with a little help from the wife. The stocker who wasted more time than anyone, and openly admitted to anyone he would become a manager by kissing as much a$$ as possible, and then doing so, and after being promoted, even being lazier than before. The daughter of the plant manager who made a supervisor by proxy simply becasue she was the bosses daughter, and then was a total prick to everyone becasue she knew she could get away with it.



To claim your rights are cemented in stone is a foolish thing to say, not to mention the fact you have contradicted yourself in that statement.

The rights we have are only as good as the people who are vested to see that they are upheld.