Autism is a NWO created disease

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18 Nov 2007, 5:21 pm

Something must be done about it, yes. Separatist movement, political action group, one day I'll do something about it when I have enough cash.

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18 Nov 2007, 5:24 pm

well if you are interested I am looking into starting a group based on our kind and our ideals of open communication and honesty. So PM me if you like. Its about time we showed our own solidarity

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18 Nov 2007, 5:37 pm

One day, maybe.

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18 Nov 2007, 6:09 pm

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snake321: when has big business st of the white population of the world is descended from some medieval European monarch or other.

Yes, but when have politicians put the interests of big corporations before those of the people on such a massive scale? Since when have the government completely divided america with labels based off fear and hatred as they have now? Since when have corporations been given the secular rights of individuals? You should do your math more.
I mean lets be honest, is your main reason for doubting this because you live in America, and you think that nothing truely bad could ever happen to America because YOU live here?

Actually, I DON'T live in the US, and I'm not American. If you took the trouble to examine things before making up your mind, you would see that my profile clearly states where I live.
In the early days of the US, many states restricted voting rights to property owners, so that the poor were entirely excluded form the political process. Until the early 20th century, senators were appointed by state legislatures, so in those states senators too were exclusively answerable to the rich. During the Gilded Age, there were no anti-monopoly laws, practically no Health & Safety, and no federal income tax (including corporate income tax). So it's a myth that in the past big business was less influential than in the past.
hysterias encouraged by the authorities in the US are nothing new (Salem witch trials, Red scare, etc)

Exactly, do you think they built this in a year? They've been progressing towards this goal for the greater part of the past century. It's worse now by far then it was years ago. Bush gave the companies the rights of individuals. When you've got hundreds of signs showing up, even if you think you've debunked one of them, how would so much come together to still point to the same conclusion?

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18 Nov 2007, 6:11 pm

You've got to read history, just because we're a "modernized" nation does not mean that the universe centers around us, and it does not mean that horrible things that have happened to others are beyond possibility of happening to us too.
Your outlook reminds me much of people you see on ER or trauma center, or victims on CSI, they always say "I never thought this would happen to me, even though I've always heard of it happening to other people".

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18 Nov 2007, 6:15 pm

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Have you ever heard of Bohemian grove?

Nice place. I vacation there almost every year.

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18 Nov 2007, 6:23 pm

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I have enough history to know that anything can happen if someone has the means, knowledge, support, and wit to pull it off.

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18 Nov 2007, 6:42 pm

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Secret groups are often a cause for concern. The skull and crossbones society seems rather sinister, especially with its membership and codes. It's got to be pretty serious if no insider has spoken much of it. What is its true purpose?

However, whether they concern you or anyone else is only evidence that they concern you. One needs evidence for conspiracies, not just concern.

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There are also special interest groups who cover up the truth and don't want anything to get in the way of their plans.

You are assuming that secrecy is evidence of "plans" and not, for instance, simply a bonding ritual.

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Corporate groups with special interests, GM crop lobbyists who push GM crops through with little concern for long-term consumer health, mobile phones companies which try to assure people that mobile phones emissions are 100% safe. Dieting companies which keep obesity listed as a life-threatening disease. The silencing of the truth and the negligence of justice in the name of money.

I am a socialist. However, I don't need to look for conspiracies to oppose capitalism. I simply watch what many corporations do and oppose them.

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18 Nov 2007, 6:43 pm

I do think they should manufactor food with drugs or hormones to induce or raise consciousness. Our world is a horrible place full of barbarian children, because most of them are totally ruled by their zombie mind (ie sub-conscious). Maybe when people became more conscious, the chains of religions would die off, the need for group identities would die off, and people would begin questioning authority better.

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18 Nov 2007, 7:15 pm

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I do think they should manufactor food with drugs or hormones to induce or raise consciousness.

so you'd force feed drugs to people? that's wrong and not freedom nor is the idea of a raised consciousness.

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18 Nov 2007, 7:40 pm

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Consciousness can be affected by drugs, but wisdom, maturity and compassion cannot consistently be triggered by any chemical. The intent of the user is often more important than the chemical itself - hippies used LSD and marijuana in attempts to get enlightened and peaceful. The CIA used LSD as a tool to pry into people's minds and as a weapon. The Assassins (a particularly nasty politico-religious movement) got their name from their use of hashish. Set and setting are important.

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19 Nov 2007, 7:14 am

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There are plenty of entheogenic substances available already, what 'they' need to do is stop the persecution of those that choose to use them and desist brainwashing the masses with anti-drug disinformation.

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This is true, although some drugs can have very immediate and powerful social effects. Its said that MDMA helped quash football hooliganism almost overnight in the late 80s.

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The Assassins (a particularly nasty politico-religious movement) got their name from their use of hashish.

I think this might be a myth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashshashin

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19 Nov 2007, 12:40 pm

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I do think they should manufactor food with drugs or hormones to induce or raise consciousness.

so you'd force feed drugs to people? that's wrong and not freedom nor is the idea of a raised consciousness.

I didn't say I'd force feed anyone, I'd load all the food with such drugs so whatever they ate, they'd become wiser. Unless they wanted to grow their own food or go fishing or hunting for food or whatever. I do not know of a way to teach people to age beyond 13 when they grow older than 13 though.

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19 Nov 2007, 12:44 pm

let me ask everyone an important question. If you are correct about all these conspiricies. What are you gonna do about them?

So far all I'm getting is "trying to control people is bad" which I immediately think, duh. Yet no real mention of a viable solution

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19 Nov 2007, 1:02 pm

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Such conspiracies can only work if the wider population is ignorant/allows them to happen. So, simply talking about them is the solution.

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19 Nov 2007, 1:07 pm

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Such conspiracies can only work if the wider population is ignorant/allows them to happen. So, simply talking about them is the solution.

NT naturally accept the current condition as normal and correct. They aren't unaware because no one tells them, they just refuse to believe it. If simply talking about them solved the problem then there wouldn't be one, everyone has heard these theories and either just accept things as they are or dont believe them and no amount of arguement will change that.

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